I don't feel comfortable in my country... there are many foreigners who are ruining our traditions and letting me feel unsafe because most crimes are commited by foreigners

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right but a lot of people still turn out just fine without a family or mom or dad. even thenm they can be raised in a nuclear family but still turn out in a gang or involved in crime. ive met people in that situation

Our country is gone.. Someone needs to make Holland great again.

That’s not true

Or just support the society in general. U don’t have to support the idea of a nuclear family to respect the choices of others that respect ur choices too and support ur community.

These ppl today want just to be celebrated nonstop and accuse the society of being bigoted and horrible if it doesn’t just tolerate them as they claim they want, but to kneel to them

Children of nuclear families on average do massively better

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there are also children without nuclear families that excel the same way

But on average that’s very rare, you are ignoring the statistics in favor of anecdotes

> there are also children without nuclear families that excel the same way
@kaseywasey But far less prevalent

> you have to approach these things in a pragmatic quantifying way

what are the actual numbers? how do you prioritize it all? what are the outliers

If u have the wrong opinion, ur a bigot. If u think the nuclear family is ideal, ur a bigot. If u think they shouldn’t be teaching kids about sex: bigot.

Etc etc I’m sure u see my point.

They don’t wanna be “tolerated.” They wanna be deified

i guess, but even then we cant say all people without nuclear families dont excel

Most don’t though...

thats the issue^

> i guess, but even then we cant say all people without nuclear families dont excel
@kaseywasey less likely to excel

but a lot still do. its like saying all kids who were raised with two parents do good when a lot dont

most/many dont. so you have to ask why before espousing values we all agree with.

quantify it. look at data yourself. make your own conclusions. doubt your current views.

whats the point of going away from a nuclear family if you are less likely to excel?

If you took a group of people where everyone has 2 parents, a mother and father. Compared it with non-binary or single/no parents. They nuclear kids will be x100 richer

Is there a purpose here?

Because they aren’t struggling to find dinner, they will be happier too

Smoke blunts wit kako, peel more skins that idaho potato

Like I remember a dude getting mad at me for saying I think gayness is sinful, but I ain’t gonna screech and claw because I ain’t the one judging them at the pearly gates.

Didn’t matter to them tho. It’s either total conformity and celebration or ur an intolerant bigot

for happiness. if my mom told me she wanted to be a woman to be happy and abandon the nuclear family it wouldnt be a problem because i know im still a hard worker. its alway the kids choice a to whether or not they wanna work hard

These libs are annoying. Decent conversation is fine but hey dont understand facts/statistics

Would you? Or would it cause unforeseen psychological defects in you that aren’t intuitive

it doesnt mean kids who are raised in single parent households are less valuable. if anything we need to prioritize their health and develop policies that set them up for success.

Like u can’t even have a differing view than them

The data clearly shows having 2 moms < 1 mom + 1 dad

> it doesnt mean kids who are raised in single parent households are less valuable. if anything we need to prioritize their health and develop policies that set them up for success.
@saturn broker agreed

the data may show that, but if we make every person in this country conform to that then is it really a free country? for following that?

Cultural imposition of values is not tyranny.

dont speak in vague generalities. be specific.

We dont force anyone to do anything @kaseywasey

other than pay taxes

we founded the country on the pursuit of happiness and if someone's pursuit of happiness is forming a family with two moms or dads then so be it

Saying I would prefer my children not to be gay is not homophobic or bigoted.