Message from @Snudgey

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2019-09-19 01:49:43 UTC  

the diseases happened largely because of the famines

2019-09-19 01:50:04 UTC  

mostly from unsustainable cities

2019-09-19 01:50:10 UTC  

NO

2019-09-19 01:50:11 UTC  

JUST STOP

2019-09-19 01:50:13 UTC  

STOP

2019-09-19 01:50:19 UTC  

when a crop is low for that year and cities need a lot of food you get a famine

2019-09-19 01:50:34 UTC  

simple as

2019-09-19 01:50:48 UTC  

in the high middle ages began the privatisation of the commons and open field system and the creation of these early "capitalist" farms were far more productive

2019-09-19 01:51:11 UTC  

they produced more food with a lower number of workers freeing up the serfs and making them economically obsolete

2019-09-19 01:51:20 UTC  

well they basically just grew much more food than they needed, that's the only difference

2019-09-19 01:51:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542037236053442561/624059953971331072/1568855491409.png

2019-09-19 01:51:46 UTC  

THEN *because of* more food being produced with less workers, the result was large waves of urbanisation

2019-09-19 01:51:55 UTC  

yeah and then you need more food

2019-09-19 01:52:05 UTC  

it's a death spiral

2019-09-19 01:52:12 UTC  

this more producitve agricultural system and larger populations in the towns

2019-09-19 01:52:13 UTC  

omg

2019-09-19 01:52:14 UTC  

NO

2019-09-19 01:52:16 UTC  

NO

2019-09-19 01:52:26 UTC  

grow what you need and keep the population stagnant

2019-09-19 01:52:28 UTC  

big brained

2019-09-19 01:52:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542037236053442561/624060214316105757/image0.png

2019-09-19 01:52:33 UTC  

the malthusian trap is where the population increases because of serfdom where it can only sustain a certain size of population

2019-09-19 01:52:45 UTC  

that results in lower living standards and leads to a famine and THAT is the death cycle

2019-09-19 01:52:52 UTC  

what YOU ARE A PROPONENT OF IS THE DEATH CYCLE

2019-09-19 01:52:54 UTC  

THE FAMOUS DEATH CYCLE

2019-09-19 01:52:58 UTC  

GO ANDLEARN WHAT THE MALTHUSIAN TRAP IS

2019-09-19 01:53:09 UTC  

YOU'RE LITERALLY A PROPONENT OF WHAT IS ESTABLISHED FACTUALLY AS THE DEATH CYCLE

2019-09-19 01:53:12 UTC  

the only way to live is in harmony with nature

2019-09-19 01:53:19 UTC  

what i'm discussing is what BROKE the death cycle

2019-09-19 01:54:01 UTC  

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2019-09-19 01:54:04 UTC  

why are you so opinionated on something you know nothing about?

2019-09-19 01:54:10 UTC  

and serfdom is not living in harmony with nature lol

2019-09-19 01:54:22 UTC  

how has that excess population worked out for us today? Not looking so good.

2019-09-19 01:54:37 UTC  

maybe we should have just let people starve occasionally

2019-09-19 01:54:39 UTC  

that's a whole other conversation, but so far preferable to living as serfs lol

2019-09-19 01:54:58 UTC  

so what happened is that agricultural enclosure stopped this cycle of famines and starvation

2019-09-19 01:55:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542037236053442561/624060924617031691/axMBgsy.jpg

2019-09-19 01:55:23 UTC  

and that's when this happens

2019-09-19 01:55:28 UTC  

so you're saying agricultural enclosure is destroying the world

2019-09-19 01:55:31 UTC  

see the chart on the top left?