Message from @Paladin308

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2018-12-26 07:31:24 UTC  

how would they prevent something like an EMP from shutting down their guns

2018-12-26 07:31:29 UTC  

Logistics are the problem

2018-12-26 07:31:43 UTC  

if it's electric, all the enemy would have to do is localize electronic pulses to render them useless

2018-12-26 07:31:54 UTC  

You're trying to solve a logistics problem with a new design, that doesn't work

2018-12-26 07:32:07 UTC  

potentially, i mean you could cage off the little computer and make it with extra thick traces

2018-12-26 07:32:11 UTC  

military grade microcontrollers already exist

2018-12-26 07:32:14 UTC  

it wouldnt be some new alien thing

2018-12-26 07:32:17 UTC  

would the guns fire conventional ammo?

2018-12-26 07:32:28 UTC  

or would the electrical components replace the ammunition

2018-12-26 07:32:37 UTC  

They don't get new cartridges, because they've got existing stockpiles and systems designed around the existing systems

2018-12-26 07:32:41 UTC  

im talking mainly about conventional ammo

2018-12-26 07:32:44 UTC  

with electronics involved

2018-12-26 07:32:53 UTC  

The gun is a minor part of the system

2018-12-26 07:32:58 UTC  

paladin they are currently trying to adopt new ammunition

2018-12-26 07:33:10 UTC  

I'm just not sure that would be advantageous because it's adding another point of failure

2018-12-26 07:33:14 UTC  

They've been doing that for decades

2018-12-26 07:33:14 UTC  

ill agree the ammo is usually harder to make than the gun

2018-12-26 07:33:39 UTC  

if the electronic components were to replace the conventional ammo with a new type that was revolutionary, that would be a reason to adopt it

2018-12-26 07:33:42 UTC  

it tends to need to be extremely finely toleranced in its own right

2018-12-26 07:34:14 UTC  

could potentially help with that as well if it did have some kind of pressure reactive system

2018-12-26 07:34:16 UTC  

6.8 6.5, .300, 7mm, there's a new meme calibre that the army is *totally* going to adopt every week

2018-12-26 07:34:22 UTC  

for instance you can electronically detect stresses in metal

2018-12-26 07:34:30 UTC  

so you could potentially react to pressure purely off of strain on the bolt

2018-12-26 07:34:34 UTC  

then drive extraction off of that

2018-12-26 07:34:47 UTC  

mind you

2018-12-26 07:34:50 UTC  

afaik the cases are more the problem

2018-12-26 07:34:55 UTC  

than the same amount of powder in every cartridge

2018-12-26 07:35:01 UTC  

hence referencing the bolt

2018-12-26 07:35:05 UTC  

it's a variety of reasons

2018-12-26 07:35:12 UTC  

once the cartridge is coming out with the right force it could start letting the extraction go

2018-12-26 07:35:19 UTC  

so if its stuck then it would start extracting sooner

2018-12-26 07:35:35 UTC  

this is probably oversimplifying im just saying there are things you can do electronically you cant do mechanically

2018-12-26 07:35:53 UTC  

There are, but the question is do they matter

2018-12-26 07:35:57 UTC  

you can do fairly simple and robust things instead of over complicated whizbang bullshit that a lot of companies try to do

2018-12-26 07:36:07 UTC  

are those advantages worth the cost of implementing that

2018-12-26 07:36:17 UTC  

well it depends mainly on the cost of implementing it

2018-12-26 07:36:34 UTC  

that would be a major factor

2018-12-26 07:36:50 UTC  

and how long would the R&D process take

2018-12-26 07:36:54 UTC  

Which is high, regardless of what it is, because it requires redesigning the existing systems developed around the existing standards

2018-12-26 07:37:14 UTC  

R&D is not even the most significant cost

2018-12-26 07:37:17 UTC  

yeah but i mean past a certain point your argument against attempting innovation breaks down