Message from @Paladin308

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2018-12-26 07:28:15 UTC  

hey i want a new gun from you guys that shoots this new bullet

2018-12-26 07:28:33 UTC  

ok we will start making the new barrels which is now the only hard part

2018-12-26 07:28:57 UTC  

like how the army wants to go to a 6.8mm gpmg

2018-12-26 07:28:59 UTC  

what do you believe bringing electronic guns to the market would improve upon exactly? guns today are pretty straightforward. I feel like adding electricity to the mix would make things way too complicated and allow for more faults

2018-12-26 07:29:17 UTC  

only if you were an asshole with it, which most engineers i know would be

2018-12-26 07:29:22 UTC  

most of them are not practically minded people

2018-12-26 07:29:22 UTC  

You want to re-engineer the AR to fire some new whiz bang cartridge? Sure thing, takes a new barrel, maybe a new bolt and feed system

2018-12-26 07:29:47 UTC  

then why do they generally buy a whole new gun

2018-12-26 07:29:58 UTC  

who

2018-12-26 07:30:01 UTC  

people?

2018-12-26 07:30:03 UTC  

i mean except for like very special purpose stuff they seem to want new stuff

2018-12-26 07:30:04 UTC  

Because they're buying something for a specific purpose

2018-12-26 07:30:04 UTC  

army

2018-12-26 07:30:23 UTC  

because it's easier to just replace inventory than it is to modify existing inventory flawlessly

2018-12-26 07:30:29 UTC  

if you want like 200 guns that fire your new SOCOM ammo they tend to repurpose existing actions but in terms of like service stuff they seem to generally want new stuff

2018-12-26 07:30:36 UTC  

Calibre conversions are a meme

2018-12-26 07:30:41 UTC  

yes and then they go through a whole new procurement process which is a lot of hassle

2018-12-26 07:30:47 UTC  

Big organizations generally don't bother

2018-12-26 07:30:59 UTC  

i think you could be more agile if you involved electronics because there would be less tuning involved to get it to run right

2018-12-26 07:31:16 UTC  

Tuning is not the problem

2018-12-26 07:31:23 UTC  

The gun is not the problem

2018-12-26 07:31:24 UTC  

how would they prevent something like an EMP from shutting down their guns

2018-12-26 07:31:29 UTC  

Logistics are the problem

2018-12-26 07:31:43 UTC  

if it's electric, all the enemy would have to do is localize electronic pulses to render them useless

2018-12-26 07:31:54 UTC  

You're trying to solve a logistics problem with a new design, that doesn't work

2018-12-26 07:32:07 UTC  

potentially, i mean you could cage off the little computer and make it with extra thick traces

2018-12-26 07:32:11 UTC  

military grade microcontrollers already exist

2018-12-26 07:32:14 UTC  

it wouldnt be some new alien thing

2018-12-26 07:32:17 UTC  

would the guns fire conventional ammo?

2018-12-26 07:32:28 UTC  

or would the electrical components replace the ammunition

2018-12-26 07:32:37 UTC  

They don't get new cartridges, because they've got existing stockpiles and systems designed around the existing systems

2018-12-26 07:32:41 UTC  

im talking mainly about conventional ammo

2018-12-26 07:32:44 UTC  

with electronics involved

2018-12-26 07:32:53 UTC  

The gun is a minor part of the system

2018-12-26 07:32:58 UTC  

paladin they are currently trying to adopt new ammunition

2018-12-26 07:33:10 UTC  

I'm just not sure that would be advantageous because it's adding another point of failure

2018-12-26 07:33:14 UTC  

They've been doing that for decades

2018-12-26 07:33:14 UTC  

ill agree the ammo is usually harder to make than the gun

2018-12-26 07:33:39 UTC  

if the electronic components were to replace the conventional ammo with a new type that was revolutionary, that would be a reason to adopt it

2018-12-26 07:33:42 UTC  

it tends to need to be extremely finely toleranced in its own right

2018-12-26 07:34:14 UTC  

could potentially help with that as well if it did have some kind of pressure reactive system