Message from NippleKing in Subverse #shitposting
You can make a group of people feel like they're doing what is morally good by supporting you. That's the democrats platform these days
Probably what its always been for all I know
It's the strong, supportive patriarchal figure and the protective, quixotic matriarchal figure
I think it's just a general conversation about ideas, I'm not sure what the precise topic of discussion is. lol
mostly discussing what consists of progressivism i guess
You need both to be in some sort of balance
yeah it's not "out with the old, in with the new" it's "out with the structurally unsound, in with the structurally sound/beneficial"
a problem the current meme left struggle with
depends on who's using the word progressive
that follows its origenal context, where the term progressive developted during the monopoly and trust busting era of usa politics in the late 1800's
political definitions are such a pain in the ass
If you'd imagine the conservative and progressive as a male and female character trying to sustain their relationship/household but also their own dreams
progressivism is more of a direction than a set idea. In 100 years what will be progressive will be different from now or 100 years before
Same as conservative
It's relevant to the structure of society
Fundamentalists are like what came before that
Going back to the absolute bedrock of the society
i think conservitism can actually replace progressivism with the definition of "out with the less structurally sound/in with the more structurally sound" but from a different perspective "keep the more structurally sound/let go of the less structurally sound"
This is why the exact word used is absolutely integral. People will see the word and have to know what the idea is with it or make assumptions about what it is.
That's why I usually avoid the established terms
Because of their connotations, which aren't always descriptive of the original meaning
Yeah while progressivism is a moving word conservitism can be seen as a standing word if you look at them like that
It also makes for much nicer conversation
Conservatism is a stranding word
Fundamentalist would be the standing word
Also why I don't like the "left/right" divide. Makes it way too easy to discredit someone elses ideas simply because they use a word they identify with.
There's also a different meaning here in Europe
Yeah, like being on the right or left is supposed to be an inherently bad thing? It makes no sense. lol
From what I've heard other American pallerinos
I heard my mom say something like "isn't he a republican though?" or some shit like that. Like why does it matter which letter he has next to his name if he has good ideas.
The two party system was a dumb idea to reinforce, mang
Right - more control to private sector
Left - more control to governments
In practice, they're both bought out by busniesses and monied interests, so it's moot.
While the left around the Iraq war was completely against the government. These ideas shift
That's the horseshoe theory
They end up in the same place