Message from @Lagomaster24

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2018-08-24 22:23:27 UTC  

what doesn monuments have to do with giving trophies to everyone?

2018-08-24 22:23:43 UTC  

monuments and trophies are important BECAUSE you don't give them to everyone

2018-08-24 22:23:51 UTC  

True

2018-08-24 22:24:01 UTC  

so the button on the left is the obvious choice everytime

2018-08-24 22:24:07 UTC  
2018-08-24 22:44:20 UTC  

I will have to say, I have seen countries celebrate failed revolutionaries before their country was able to gain independence, but it is strange seeing the Americans still have this much reverence for their own failed traitors.

2018-08-24 22:44:57 UTC  

I don't get your point

2018-08-24 22:45:04 UTC  

failed traitors are part of history

2018-08-24 22:45:25 UTC  

almost as important as those who "won"

2018-08-24 23:03:12 UTC  

It is not the recognition that is the strange part, there are many people who despise Hitler & the Nazis, but still acknowledge & greatly value people studying him & his regime in the greater culture. It is the loving veneration the Confederation still receives that is strange.

2018-08-24 23:16:38 UTC  

Personally, I find confederate statues not be to bad as long as they symbolize something other than slavery. A lot of men on the confederate side fought for reasons other than to keep slavery and surrendered honorably when they saw they were nearing defeat. The nazis had people who didn’t like the party but still fought out of things like duty to the country. Would I want a statue of a Wehrmacht soldier? Yes, as long as it is about the soldiers rather than the darkness of that part of history.

2018-08-24 23:18:45 UTC  

I think that people think of slavery from the wrong PoV in general. Times were hard and some viewed slavery as a chance to a better life. (which is what they got, specially after 3 generations in the US)

2018-08-24 23:18:59 UTC  

Slavery in Africa was (and is) completely different though

2018-08-24 23:48:40 UTC  

for every one confederate statue build 2 more that honor the Union and the freed slaves within the same area

2018-08-25 00:07:16 UTC  

or, just stop having people being triggered by everything

2018-08-25 00:08:22 UTC  

ideally yea

2018-08-25 00:12:17 UTC  

That is not really something you can compensate for to the people who want the confederate statues gone, it is like telling the holocaust survivors for every one statue commemorating the Nazi holocaust organizers that there are two for the holocaust memorials.

2018-08-25 00:15:42 UTC  

i mean my policy is that if its a cemetery memorial or something akin to it, leave it alone.

2018-08-25 00:15:45 UTC  

idk

2018-08-25 00:17:34 UTC  

im from the south and have a appreciation for history, even the bad parts, as we must learn from it and remember it instead of trying to hide it away

2018-08-25 00:17:49 UTC  

to remove history is to censor it

2018-08-25 00:17:58 UTC  

even if its not all good

2018-08-25 00:18:08 UTC  

take the French Revolution for example

2018-08-25 00:18:46 UTC  

the revolutionaries destroyed various statues and memorials that were even remotely religious or monarchical

2018-08-25 00:20:09 UTC  

the irony was that they ended up with an Emperor but they legit lost aspects of their history due to the destruction, and while not enough to erase aspects of their past entirely, it is knowledge that we will never have access to again

2018-08-25 00:22:25 UTC  

suffice to say its difficult for me to support the destruction or hiding/storing away of even the darker aspects of American history. Put them in a museum if anything, just dont erase it outright.

2018-08-25 00:30:26 UTC  

this was posted in a gacha game server im in

2018-08-25 00:32:06 UTC  

everyone's essentially saying fuck not this shit again

2018-08-25 00:32:25 UTC  

Uhh

2018-08-25 00:32:44 UTC  

Nobody's pointing out the cultural appropriation of it?

2018-08-25 00:32:56 UTC  

lol

2018-08-25 00:33:05 UTC  

i think some tubers have

2018-08-25 00:33:19 UTC  

but idk about the over arching anime community

2018-08-25 00:33:30 UTC  

Like, CrunchyRoll is a place for the Asian community to put forward their animation

2018-08-25 00:33:38 UTC  

Please don't pollute it with whiteness.

2018-08-25 00:33:40 UTC  

Please. Don't do this.

2018-08-25 00:33:53 UTC  

its gonna be hilarious to see how ani-tube falls apart if this gets worse

2018-08-25 00:34:06 UTC  

The bright side is that they can't change the Japanese, down side is the might drive a wedge between Japan & the West for licensed distribution.

2018-08-25 00:34:12 UTC  

yea