which is a LOT better than downing a bottle or three of vodka and ending up in hospital and/or frozen to death in a ditch

not the point

it's about convenience

pirating videogames for free isn't hard, I still buy mine on steam or GoG because it's convenient

I think you are coming to the wrong conclusion there. Just because a drink has more alcohol doesn't mean it's worse

they just drink less of it

nope

not true

drinking a 50 cl bottle of Vodka is a lot easier than drinking 5 liters of beer

simply by the fact your stomach can't even hold 5 liters at a time, if nothing else

I started on shots at 15. I would drink 2 and that was the night. I got way less problems with alcohol than most of my friends that went full on beers and didn't even know how much they drank

it's not like you need 5 liters when you're young

pretty sure you're an outlier then, drinking and *stopping* at 2 shots seems a bit... eh. Uncommon

for a kid a liter would be enough

sure

but the proportion is the same

more or less

I mean it depends on what beer and what vodka you get

but that's what I said above, the proportion changes but that's it

it's not like kids go into Vodka and drink it like it is beer

nor has that ever been my argument

Heh, back when I was a kid, I made my own hooch. Was about 18% but good.

kids go into vodka and drink half a bottle, which happens a LOT

drinking 2 shots and calling it a night, doesn't happen so much

that's, what? 8 cl? The equivalent of a liter beer. two pints more or less

hell, I don't even know girls who drank that little in a night growing up, unless they were driving or something

at 15 and clubbing, it's not like you want to go full drunk

2 shots at the start was enough 😂

At the start 😏

I think it's more important to teach kids to do it safe and responsibly than to ban it and assume they won't drink

just bottled some honey wine/mead I made btw, around 12%

second time I've tried it and this is looking really promising so far

but honestly, I don't understand the point on the % of alcohol

What kind of bottle, wine with a cork or what?

I would understand if you said, stuff above 50% is dangerous

sure

most kids wouldn't be able to drink it anyway

Absinth and the like

Most kids around here drink moonshine... they learn quick to be careful

whatever I had lying around, really. It's been fermenting for just over a month, now I added some more honey, some spices, and put it into some plastic kegs, wine bottles, plastic bottles, etc.

I never liked beer, I went for shots when I was young. It was cheaper too 😂