Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-10-05 21:36:45 UTC  

In the case of the Soviet Union, there was an ideological war long before that.

2018-10-05 21:37:01 UTC  

So, when the Soviet Union crashed, people had a very clear example of what worked and what doesn't.

2018-10-05 21:37:24 UTC  

There were examples around how to do things better. Now, that everybody seems to go towards socialist policies, there is less of an example around how to do it better.

2018-10-05 21:38:03 UTC  

Back when the Soviet Union fell, everybody was looking to America as the glowing example of success, so I think it became more obvious what particular faults were responsible.

2018-10-05 21:38:07 UTC  

Acceleration is an incredibly dumb idea.

2018-10-05 21:38:15 UTC  

You really have no guarantees what comes after.

2018-10-05 21:38:19 UTC  

And everyone assumes they win.

2018-10-05 21:38:24 UTC  

^^

2018-10-05 21:38:38 UTC  

Really, if history is a guide the winner 9 times out of 10 is just a collection of warlords.

2018-10-05 21:38:49 UTC  

Which is about the worst possible solution.

2018-10-05 21:39:04 UTC  

Also with today's surveillance state technology there's no guarantee there even is an 'after'. The boot can keep stomping on the human face forever.

2018-10-05 21:39:10 UTC  

Yes, but I think in America, in case of a crash, people would look more to a return of free market principles, because there has been a stronger tradition of it.

2018-10-05 21:39:22 UTC  

Not necessarily.

2018-10-05 21:39:24 UTC  

In the case of a crash, we have a better chance for people to point at the fault.

2018-10-05 21:39:37 UTC  

Those who can most apply force tend to win. That means the young, the organized and the armed.

2018-10-05 21:39:44 UTC  

The socialists win 2/3 of those criteria.

2018-10-05 21:40:13 UTC  

In the depression, shit kept getting worse no matter how many handouts and soup lines there were. People didn't clamor for free markets; they clamored for more handouts.

2018-10-05 21:40:16 UTC  

But, I also have my doubts. Look at how the 2008 economic crisis was handled.

2018-10-05 21:40:21 UTC  

The conditions under which the system falls apart matters alot, but to put it gently, I wouldn't be assuming any particular outcome.

2018-10-05 21:40:34 UTC  

Except to say most potential outcomes are poor.

2018-10-05 21:41:22 UTC  

Today, I think there are too many people who had bad education.

2018-10-05 21:41:32 UTC  

If we have a crash, we might be right back to socialist crap.

2018-10-05 21:42:00 UTC  

I'm split. I can see it go either way.

2018-10-05 21:42:03 UTC  

Also, it's easy to say the rural people tend to have an advantage in a collapse. But they'll also be on the hunting list by the vast army of people from the cities demanding food.

2018-10-05 21:42:14 UTC  

I wish we had people like Thomas Sowell in government.

2018-10-05 21:42:25 UTC  

But, the best don't want to deal with the shit.

2018-10-05 21:42:43 UTC  

Though Sowell is probably more effective in a more public facing position where he isn't forced to sour his name with politics.

2018-10-05 21:43:01 UTC  

So, we rather have losers like Obama in office who never had a real job they didn't get through social connections.

2018-10-05 21:43:21 UTC  

BUt at least he was black, I guess.

2018-10-05 21:43:26 UTC  

By any means, acceleration is dumb.

2018-10-05 21:43:30 UTC  

yay progress

2018-10-05 21:43:36 UTC  

yay progress weee

2018-10-05 21:43:46 UTC  

The communists tried (or so they claimed) it around the 70s.

2018-10-05 21:43:52 UTC  

The 80s were Reagan.

2018-10-05 21:44:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/497886790863290373/aVl3166W_700w_0.jpg

2018-10-05 21:44:49 UTC  

Actually, there is something to be sad for acceleration:

If I crash going 70 MPH, I'll probably be a cripple. So I might as well drive 180 MPH and really make sure I'm a pancake when I crash.

2018-10-05 21:45:42 UTC  

nah just be like tsuchiya and be wise enough not to crash

2018-10-05 21:45:48 UTC  

drift them hotbois

2018-10-05 21:52:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/497888935805190164/fred.png

2018-10-05 22:01:49 UTC  

good lord you can see the skelington under the melting skin