Message from @Walsp

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2018-11-22 23:46:22 UTC  

Every ancap group I've been in has been as authoritarian as antifa.

2018-11-22 23:46:28 UTC  

most of them Exibit Authoritarian style Censorship behavior

2018-11-22 23:46:29 UTC  

On discord at least.

2018-11-22 23:46:30 UTC  

Then they're not ancap

2018-11-22 23:46:42 UTC  

Simple as that

2018-11-22 23:46:58 UTC  

I know ancaps that arent Even Close to that

2018-11-22 23:47:10 UTC  

Okay, the Anarco Communists could use the same defense against shit Antifa does.

2018-11-22 23:47:20 UTC  

Anarco communism wont work

2018-11-22 23:47:27 UTC  

you cant have Anarchy and A collective

2018-11-22 23:47:36 UTC  

Ancap rejects the state and puts power to the individual to do what they want, because they own themselves, not the state.

2018-11-22 23:47:40 UTC  

It's a no true scottsman and all.

2018-11-22 23:47:42 UTC  

Not authoritarian at all

2018-11-22 23:47:59 UTC  

Everything works on a small enough scale for a short enough time period

2018-11-22 23:48:08 UTC  

Pretty much

2018-11-22 23:48:17 UTC  

Well yeah The short term is there Future plan

2018-11-22 23:48:23 UTC  

its sad actually

2018-11-22 23:48:24 UTC  

It's not the state that kicked me out, it was an individual that kicked me out because I was causing too many problems.

2018-11-22 23:48:48 UTC  

hehehe you weakling

2018-11-22 23:48:52 UTC  

kick them out back

2018-11-22 23:48:59 UTC  

I convinced like four members that it wasn't possible to establish an Ancap society.

2018-11-22 23:49:09 UTC  

Good luck with that

2018-11-22 23:49:49 UTC  

Ancap can't realistically work unless the people are good. But authoritarianism doesn't really work at all. So realistically, an ancap society wouldn't last for long. A good example of this was with the pilgrims who came to the new world.

2018-11-22 23:50:27 UTC  

Eventually they had to create the articles of confederation to make sure there was some cohesive government so they didn't get taken over

2018-11-22 23:50:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/515313232651616267/unknown.png

2018-11-22 23:50:50 UTC  

That's not my point, my point is that all extremes of the political spectrum turn into authoritarians.

2018-11-22 23:50:52 UTC  

But I like the idea of ancap is it could work for a long time.

2018-11-22 23:50:57 UTC  
2018-11-22 23:51:02 UTC  

not all extremes

2018-11-22 23:51:15 UTC  

The articles of confederation were not at all authoritarian

2018-11-22 23:51:20 UTC  

extreme Pacifism doesnt lead to Authoritarianism

2018-11-22 23:51:28 UTC  

a lot less authoritarian than the constitution

2018-11-22 23:51:33 UTC  

it leads to isolationism

2018-11-22 23:51:50 UTC  

They weren't extremists.

2018-11-22 23:51:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/515313500495544390/unknown.png

2018-11-22 23:52:06 UTC  

have you ever met a Jainist ?

2018-11-22 23:52:09 UTC  

Nope

2018-11-22 23:52:12 UTC  

Extreme pacifism can invite authoritarianism via unopposed coup d' etat

2018-11-22 23:52:22 UTC  

imagine a extremist Jainis that would be the funniest thing ever .

2018-11-22 23:52:27 UTC  

They cant harm ANYthing

2018-11-22 23:52:34 UTC  

Jainist aren't political extremists either.

2018-11-22 23:52:48 UTC  

What the hell is an extremist anyway?