the straight dudes either start out doing it for humor (and as a way to vent getting bullied about looks) or because they have a gf get them into it

strangly the guys who are good at it are popular with the ladies, suppose they are so far on feminine looking side its sort of "chad" in its own way ( assuming personality is good etc)

Tf

friend i had started cause his gf wanted him to model lolita outfits she couldnt fit into (sizing charts are iffy and real lolita dresses is expensive and hard to get)

thats tru

traps get so much pussy :P

he looks like younger version of the old cerizon wireles "can you hear me" guy without makeup but looks like teen girl in makeup

tldr

women like competence

My bet is just that a very small minority of weirdo women like that shit

But they like it A LOT

Think about who you'd be attracting being a trap online

well said guy had acumen in otaku shit like 90s japanese fashion and stuff

so women who like that, he could hold convos most guys couldnt

People that like Otaku shit 🤢

also

its important to remember women like a lot of girly guys in music and whatnot, its not that most women cant like sorta dorky/emo/girly aesthetic its that usually their main virtues for actual dating is agreed upon and social, its more flexible then mens aesthetic desires. if you are hanging out in a niche where korean boyband members are hot then and all your girlfriends agreebto that then twinkie guys are hot

for all i know its those womens way (niche otaku girls who like this etc) to rebel against their parents and their values or some shit. i should note at this point looking girly and being purely low test not the same thingb strictly speaking. if your born babyfaced and only to grow to say 5 foot 6 then said person can appear girly but have normal testosterone/pheromone levels

"Women like a lot of girly guys...."

Prime examples....

Prince
David Bowie
Favio

Well that's pedophilism... and that's a... different concept...

old ass women crushin on pre-teens.... *cringes*

oof

that's another one of those weird ass double standards, though...

How is it "creepy" that an old man "loves" the disney channel version of Myley Cyrus.... but an old woamn loving Justin Beiber is "a phase"

?

not to mention the thousands upon thousands of Daddy porn out there.... And yet anythign even remotely Mommy is somehow, inherently, incestuous...

#EqualExposureForMommyPorn

lol

Wait wasn't Miley Cyrus 18+ during disney?

Holy shit nvm she started at 11

At the very end she was 17

@Sunseahl you don't have to worry, the left is pushing pedophilia "for everyone" now

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/461381136661217283/518732504925077511/image-10.jpg

I suspect most of the controversy around the word trap is that it was both used as a slur/insult and a "value neutral" description in anime culture. Of course when those two uses collide there is going to be arguments over its proper use

you think? I don't think it was used as an insult

trap started on 4chan, the idea is that you are attracted to something that looks and that you think is a female.... but isn't

I wouldn't call that an "insult"

in anime the big difference is that there is _no trans BS_ sticked into it

I would argue that _trap_ is a term with positive connotations even

but we can agree on one thing

TRAPS 👏 ARE 👏 NOT 👏 GAY 👏