Message from @Imperial J. Yay
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That being said yeah people shouldn't support "left wing" (since it's implied he was talking about Spencer etc. he prolly meant Keith "supporting" Bloomberg) candidates but you're going to have to make an actual case against that
It's more complicated than just wishfull thinking; they had more nuanced takes on the question and discussed it at length whether right or wrong
@Mr. Nessel I'm sick of absolutely retarded takes being presented as intellectual. First, these guys supported Yang, then Gabbard, then Bloomberg, then Bernie. All of whom are viciously anti-white and would gladly throw right-wingers in jail. I'm no fan of Trump, but he's not that bad. It's only a matter of time before they start endorsing Julius Malema in South Africa and start calling people who question them boomers. It was all a waste of time and makes the dissident right look like a joke. We need maturity.
Endeavour you literally said that bloomberg getting elected would be the best from bernie trump and him
@Imperial J. Yay I never said that. I said Bloomberg was the least horrible of the Democrats. I still said it would be better if Trump won though because Trump gives us time and the ability to hold their feet to the fire. I never said I endorsed him though. Furthermore, I'm not trying to come up with crackpot 4D chess schemes and calling everyone who disagrees with them a "boomer".
I might have remembered it wrong then sorry
iirc it was late night in the vc
I've said many times that, while Trump hasn't delivered on policy, him winning in 2016 was a major metapolitical victory for us because it was a big screw you to the establishment. What he represented in 2016 was temporarily useful.
I agree about Trump being necessary to buy time but only one of these guys endorsed Bloomberg and he didn't call other people boomer because of it
His endorsement came because he would view a Bloomberg victory not as good (like Trump supporters who "ironically" shilled for Yang and his UBI) but showing people that a billionaire establishment type literally can buy an election.
Of course I don't agree with it because I don't like gambling, however they're respectable people imo and what damage has Keith actually done considering Bloomberg didn't get the nomination as he expected
Ironically Biden might cause more resentment because blacks stole Bernie's nomination etc. and still lose (though Corona might change that) which is the best outcome
will corona wipe out the boomer politicans?
No
-spencer
-respectable
Pick one.
this
People have this blind rage against him because of Charlottesville
When you put that aside the recent podcasts with Keith and Dutton are decent
He would've done better if he had remained humble and just stuck to beign an influencer
he's either a fed or a subversive parasite
I doubt it
He fucked up with the marches (which he still hasn't learned is stupid because he endorses other groups now who engage in it) but was probably well meaning
Basically a usefull idiot
I doubt it
if he's that retarded he would be a leftist
Which ones
Afaik he was a bit too tolerant of spergs
Either way he can't do much harm now because he's universally despised in the dissident right with just a few exceptions
Paul Gottfried with Richard Spencer and Pat Buchanan:
Spencer used to be Paleocon so it's not surprising
afaik his family also has ties with the CIA
some claim he's also partly jewish
Isn't his father just a dentist
@Mr. Nessel I like Keith Woods, but when I spoke with him, I disagreed with his idea that it would've been better had Trump lost in 2016. For me personally, Trump winning got me much more interested in far-right politics. I always hated progressivism, but until Trump won, I never realized how many people felt the same. Yeah, he hasn't delivered, but he was never going to destroy the left. I'm no fan of the MAGAtards, but some people go way overboard in denouncing them. Things could be a lot worse and with someone like Bernie or Yang in office, they would be.
Yeah I agree with that. I got into right wing stuff around late 2015
A big issue with Keith's view is that there's an assumption that resentment directly translates into support for us
When there's no infrastructure in place to seize upon opportunities regardless of if they're risky or not
During the Trump election people who weren't as orthodox could more easily blend in with more established conservatives so that enabled people to use their infrastructure
the election of Trump was a Pyrrhic victory for our movement
but you how they said:
"if we continue to have so many pyrrhic victories we will lose the war"
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Based Grandfathers.