Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-03-28 08:40:53 UTC  

Good video by Lovely Porridge on 'Loser Nationalism' and why "accelerationism" and ironically supporting left-wing candidates is a waste of time and destructive: https://youtu.be/KSiqBMZMG8E

2020-03-28 10:18:25 UTC  

Didn't like it
He was getting pissed off at Spencer, Keith and Dutton for discussing islam at an arms length. It was far from them just indulging in the white Sharia meme but Dutton bringing up his book on the topic about how Islam/religiosity is an evolutionary strategy etc.

2020-03-28 10:18:36 UTC  

Comes off as preachy

2020-03-28 10:22:11 UTC  

That being said yeah people shouldn't support "left wing" (since it's implied he was talking about Spencer etc. he prolly meant Keith "supporting" Bloomberg) candidates but you're going to have to make an actual case against that

2020-03-28 10:23:56 UTC  

It's more complicated than just wishfull thinking; they had more nuanced takes on the question and discussed it at length whether right or wrong

2020-03-28 11:54:59 UTC  

@Mr. Nessel I'm sick of absolutely retarded takes being presented as intellectual. First, these guys supported Yang, then Gabbard, then Bloomberg, then Bernie. All of whom are viciously anti-white and would gladly throw right-wingers in jail. I'm no fan of Trump, but he's not that bad. It's only a matter of time before they start endorsing Julius Malema in South Africa and start calling people who question them boomers. It was all a waste of time and makes the dissident right look like a joke. We need maturity.

2020-03-28 12:05:13 UTC  

Endeavour you literally said that bloomberg getting elected would be the best from bernie trump and him

2020-03-28 12:54:22 UTC  

@Imperial J. Yay I never said that. I said Bloomberg was the least horrible of the Democrats. I still said it would be better if Trump won though because Trump gives us time and the ability to hold their feet to the fire. I never said I endorsed him though. Furthermore, I'm not trying to come up with crackpot 4D chess schemes and calling everyone who disagrees with them a "boomer".

2020-03-28 12:54:57 UTC  

I might have remembered it wrong then sorry

2020-03-28 12:55:07 UTC  

iirc it was late night in the vc

2020-03-28 12:57:33 UTC  

I've said many times that, while Trump hasn't delivered on policy, him winning in 2016 was a major metapolitical victory for us because it was a big screw you to the establishment. What he represented in 2016 was temporarily useful.

2020-03-28 13:33:25 UTC  

I agree about Trump being necessary to buy time but only one of these guys endorsed Bloomberg and he didn't call other people boomer because of it
His endorsement came because he would view a Bloomberg victory not as good (like Trump supporters who "ironically" shilled for Yang and his UBI) but showing people that a billionaire establishment type literally can buy an election.
Of course I don't agree with it because I don't like gambling, however they're respectable people imo and what damage has Keith actually done considering Bloomberg didn't get the nomination as he expected

2020-03-28 13:36:23 UTC  

Ironically Biden might cause more resentment because blacks stole Bernie's nomination etc. and still lose (though Corona might change that) which is the best outcome

2020-03-28 13:38:18 UTC  

will corona wipe out the boomer politicans?

2020-03-28 13:38:27 UTC  

No

2020-03-28 13:48:38 UTC  

-spencer
-respectable
Pick one.

2020-03-28 13:49:46 UTC  

this

2020-03-28 13:50:03 UTC  

People have this blind rage against him because of Charlottesville
When you put that aside the recent podcasts with Keith and Dutton are decent
He would've done better if he had remained humble and just stuck to beign an influencer

2020-03-28 13:50:19 UTC  

he's either a fed or a subversive parasite

2020-03-28 13:50:27 UTC  

I doubt it

2020-03-28 13:51:25 UTC  

He fucked up with the marches (which he still hasn't learned is stupid because he endorses other groups now who engage in it) but was probably well meaning

2020-03-28 13:52:06 UTC  

Basically a usefull idiot

2020-03-28 13:52:18 UTC  

I doubt it

2020-03-28 13:52:43 UTC  

you really have to be retarded to hang out with subversive jews

2020-03-28 13:52:55 UTC  

if he's that retarded he would be a leftist

2020-03-28 13:53:00 UTC  

Which ones

2020-03-28 13:53:14 UTC  

Afaik he was a bit too tolerant of spergs

2020-03-28 13:54:31 UTC  

Either way he can't do much harm now because he's universally despised in the dissident right with just a few exceptions

2020-03-28 13:55:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668910687380307969/693458278289768508/image.png

2020-03-28 13:55:50 UTC  

Paul Gottfried with Richard Spencer and Pat Buchanan:

2020-03-28 13:56:37 UTC  

Spencer used to be Paleocon so it's not surprising

2020-03-28 13:56:53 UTC  

afaik his family also has ties with the CIA

2020-03-28 13:56:59 UTC  

some claim he's also partly jewish

2020-03-28 13:57:06 UTC  

Isn't his father just a dentist

2020-03-28 14:10:26 UTC  

@Mr. Nessel I like Keith Woods, but when I spoke with him, I disagreed with his idea that it would've been better had Trump lost in 2016. For me personally, Trump winning got me much more interested in far-right politics. I always hated progressivism, but until Trump won, I never realized how many people felt the same. Yeah, he hasn't delivered, but he was never going to destroy the left. I'm no fan of the MAGAtards, but some people go way overboard in denouncing them. Things could be a lot worse and with someone like Bernie or Yang in office, they would be.