Message from @William

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2020-02-17 16:33:22 UTC  

People are malleable yes but genetics plays a role and I don't think propaganda would make someone who is predisposed to want to have lots of childre, have none instead

2020-02-17 16:34:02 UTC  

It's more like natalism and certain economic incentives were molding people who are antinatalist dead ends in our society to have children

2020-02-17 16:34:56 UTC  

Arguably even natalist propaganda doesn't work in a decadent society though

2020-02-17 16:36:20 UTC  

Looking at Hungary, Poland etc. and what measures they've taken it doesn't seem like birthrates have increased by a lot and to the degree they have it's probably for nothing again if you take away the incentives

2020-02-17 16:37:41 UTC  

In a way this (temporary) decline in birthrates is/was a painfull correction but since we're the first who undergo it we'll be the first to be through with it whilst the rest of the world is still goign to be stuck in that painfull process

2020-02-17 16:37:57 UTC  

It's a perfect opportunity waiting to happen

2020-02-17 16:50:58 UTC  

Resonant is alright

2020-02-17 16:59:08 UTC  

only alright???

2020-02-17 16:59:15 UTC  

I'm offended

2020-02-17 17:02:07 UTC  
2020-02-17 17:02:25 UTC  

What fag

2020-02-17 17:02:38 UTC  

Your pfp

2020-02-17 17:02:43 UTC  

yeah lmao

2020-02-17 17:02:45 UTC  

funny

2020-02-17 17:02:53 UTC  

looks autistic

2020-02-17 17:02:59 UTC  

It does

2020-02-17 17:03:08 UTC  

sorry daddy

2020-02-17 17:03:13 UTC  

Kek

2020-02-17 17:03:51 UTC  

It has been a while

2020-02-17 17:04:01 UTC  

Yeah dude hey

2020-02-17 17:04:18 UTC  

Uni life has me pinned down with work and socialising

2020-02-17 18:21:53 UTC  

@Mr. Nessel You can raise birthrates by taking away womens voting and working rights, but no-one does, so they dont. It does work in enclaves like with the amish or muslims but ideally these rules should be based in law. Of course now that women vote, they will vote against these changes because theyre women and dont think about whats good for society longterm, so you can never establish them through democratic means.

2020-02-17 18:24:40 UTC  

Amish don't have so many children because they're forced to lol

2020-02-17 18:25:07 UTC  

you dont think the amish keep their pimp hand strong?

2020-02-17 18:25:22 UTC  

People can just leave and do

2020-02-17 18:25:28 UTC  

Which is why it's working

2020-02-17 18:25:39 UTC  

Amish lost all the riff raff pretty much

2020-02-17 18:27:12 UTC  

its a tight-nit community, you can say they can just leave but obviously there is social pressure against that and women do respond to that

2020-02-17 18:27:19 UTC  

I think the point is that these smaller measures don’t make the population inherently more pro-natalist

2020-02-17 18:27:28 UTC  

And only natural selection can accomplish that

2020-02-17 18:27:35 UTC  

no

2020-02-17 18:27:49 UTC  

We actually have examples of policy failing at correctign birthrates

2020-02-17 18:27:52 UTC  

literally do feminism in reverse, thats all im saying

2020-02-17 18:28:15 UTC  

Birthrates were lower under N*zi Germany than Weimar Germany for example

2020-02-17 18:28:44 UTC  

Hungary's and Poland's natalist policies barely raised birthrates at all

2020-02-17 18:29:04 UTC  

women work in those countries

2020-02-17 18:29:12 UTC  

dont make me repeat myself

2020-02-17 18:29:25 UTC  

All you need to do is weather out the storm and see people who are genetic dead ends sort themselves out of the population

2020-02-17 18:30:27 UTC  

Birthrates were dropping since the beginning of industrialization, not feminism

2020-02-17 18:30:43 UTC  

Not that feminism is a good thing

2020-02-17 18:30:53 UTC  

But it's not the cause of the damage