European identity certainly has catched on in Europe. Idk why people always have this idea that very few Europeans actually identify as such

Moreso in the left than the right for some reason

less borders

Yeah, in that context it is no good

thats the reason

But even in the right there's a sort of supranational attitude where people are cheering on victories in other European countries

It's being a paneuropean nationalist in denial in essence

Either way if this block splits up that just means being divided and conquered

lol by who

Well America which is why America under Trump has actually supported euroskepticism

Brexit is entirely in line with American policy

no..

You'd have to be delusional to say Trump's administration wouldn't prefer to have trade deals with the countries individually

the US constantly keeps nagging germany to increase its military so they dont have to babysit us anymore

Yes

this is not about trade

But America doesn't want an EU army

America wants Nato allies obedient to Washington

Drag us into their wars

And get us to pay for it ourselves

No independent foreign policy

And a stranglehold on trade matters

Nevermind that we'll have to oppose China in some ways too eventually

the US literally conquering european countries seems ridiculous to me, and I dont really care about trade deals, right now Im concerned with survival

Not conquering

America doesn't conquer places

America is a hegemon and controls things indirectly

Say through sanctioning private companies aiding to build pipelines or that do buisness in Iran

Which the EU vehemently opposes

i doubt the american hegemon we would have then would open our borders wider than the EU already does

the EU has to go

You'll be able to see in Britain pretty soon but yeah it's not primarily abotu migration in this case but overall sovereignty

What use is a nationstate if America can drag you into its wars etc. dictate your trade policies, continue to culturally subvert you etc.

Doing away with the EU won't at all adress issues regarding to migration

And might actually make thigns harder

Since it's easier in principle to close the Schengen borders

It's jsut all the estbalishments in the major European countries are retarded

You will not convert the EU into a pan-european nationalist organisation

its the opposite of that right now

You're more than likely to get the Eu to close its border eventually

And Britain as it is leaving already has announced it will become more open to the world