We've only become this way because the EU literally has been one of the most secure periods of time in German history

We play along because for centuries prior countries on the central European plain repeatedly got butchered, reassembled, disappeared, mutilated, torched and whatnot

I think Poland maintained this slightly better because it feels more immediately threatened by Russia, Eastern Germany maybe because it got out of socialism and now has to put up with this shit

Wish that everyone could come to a common understanding that there should be no migration into the EU etc.

We are going to allow Turks in before that ever happens.

i believe the european identity may be too abstract and removed from any individual european. its either the nation or globalism

It's certainly like this in Poland

other resolutions of identity in between dont catch on well

European identity certainly has catched on in Europe. Idk why people always have this idea that very few Europeans actually identify as such

Moreso in the left than the right for some reason

less borders

Yeah, in that context it is no good

thats the reason

But even in the right there's a sort of supranational attitude where people are cheering on victories in other European countries

It's being a paneuropean nationalist in denial in essence

Either way if this block splits up that just means being divided and conquered

lol by who

Well America which is why America under Trump has actually supported euroskepticism

Brexit is entirely in line with American policy

no..

You'd have to be delusional to say Trump's administration wouldn't prefer to have trade deals with the countries individually

the US constantly keeps nagging germany to increase its military so they dont have to babysit us anymore

Yes

this is not about trade

But America doesn't want an EU army

America wants Nato allies obedient to Washington

Drag us into their wars

And get us to pay for it ourselves

No independent foreign policy

And a stranglehold on trade matters

Nevermind that we'll have to oppose China in some ways too eventually

the US literally conquering european countries seems ridiculous to me, and I dont really care about trade deals, right now Im concerned with survival

Not conquering

America doesn't conquer places

America is a hegemon and controls things indirectly

Say through sanctioning private companies aiding to build pipelines or that do buisness in Iran

Which the EU vehemently opposes

i doubt the american hegemon we would have then would open our borders wider than the EU already does

the EU has to go

You'll be able to see in Britain pretty soon but yeah it's not primarily abotu migration in this case but overall sovereignty

What use is a nationstate if America can drag you into its wars etc. dictate your trade policies, continue to culturally subvert you etc.