Message from @Mr. Nessel
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Being able to hold for a while longer might've allowed for Germany to prepare another defensive line behind the Rhine river, which would make tanks completely useless and offensives from either side completely futile
The Hindenburg line even as it existed on land was formidable so I have little doubt Germany could have held on much longer than it did historically if a similiar defensive line existed but behind the Rhine
I definitely agree with your point about initially defending against France though
If Germany didn't make use of the Schlieffen plan it would have to only defend Alsace Lorraine which is pretty good terrain for defence or fall back to the Rhine for the most part which again would make it very easiy to defend
Whereas Germany managed to not only beat Russia historically, but with less troops than would be available under this scenario
Nvm all the implications of not violating Belgian neutrality which is the main reason for Britain to join the war
Which is the main reason Germany did resort to unrestricted submarine warfare which brought in the Americans
If Britain stayed out of it Germany even would have naval superiority and could feasably blockade the French rather than being blockaded by Britain
i really doubt the britbongs would allow Germs to be hegemons of europe. they would join france and russia regardless of belgium
Not without a casus belli and even if they did they would join in delayed
germs could never win a prolonged war against Entete.
Says who
they didbt have the resources
Germany had the ressources to continue fighting. The issue that killed Germany was tanks allowing for the Hindenburg line to be overrun
their navy was confined to the ports after jutland and tactics were developed against u boat attacks
Yes which is why the German navy would only be relevant if Britain stayed out of the war
how many tanks did germs produce? LMOA 50?100? and why do you think they failed to produce more
Germany mostly made use of stormtroopsers/infiltration tactics
They would've built tanks eventually but weren't the first to do so
At the Rhine tanks wouldn't matter either way
as if pontoon bridges could not be developed
So you think pontoon bridges would be enough if Germany had built static dfences on its side of the Rhine?
Even with tanks and mass assaults they had a hard time breaking the Hindenburg line
Nvm Germany would concentrate artillery on the river if pontoon bridges would be deployed
they would pound them with artillery. static defences were getting obsolete by 1918 and era of moblie warfare
Static defences became less effective because they made trenches wider because of tanks
Had the German navy tried to go through the Channel, Britain would have definitely joined. I'd recommend just using the navy in the Baltic.
Since tanks are a minimal factor when crossing a river like the Rhine the defences would be even more formidable
Since trenches would be less wide and therefore less susceptible to artillery
i think even if lusitania never occured USA would join the war because of submarine warfare and zimer tellegram
As faras America is concerned I don't think they would be invested enough to tolerate heavy casualties
If the Rhine were to hold, which it definitely would for years imo they would need to either go through the Alps, Greece or the Zagros mountains
I don't think Americans would take suicide charges into mountains as well as Italians did
also never forget that entete had bottomless suplies of Guano for gunpowder production. germs had to use expensive sythetic gunpowder they made it at a loss and it was crippling their battered economy
It's not that expensive to make nitrogen using the Haber Bosch technique since after the war it replaced Guano across the world
And became the source for Nitrogen in fertilizer etc.
yes because it was made cheaper by then.
Germany's economy wasn't going to be its end. Not after gaining that many trade partners in the east
They would continue printing bonds and whatnot
Only major issue I see is that abandoning the Rhineland would seriously fuck up war production