Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-04-18 12:52:43 UTC  

remember Germany only became a country in the 1870s

2020-04-18 12:53:02 UTC  

Yes, that was the problem in the first place

2020-04-18 12:53:07 UTC  

The GATT and WTO forced people to have free trade

2020-04-18 12:53:16 UTC  

That's not free trade

2020-04-18 12:53:21 UTC  

It is

2020-04-18 12:53:31 UTC  

Because it lowered tariffs across the board

2020-04-18 12:53:33 UTC  

That's just convergence of regulations

2020-04-18 12:53:46 UTC  

That's pretty retarded

2020-04-18 12:53:52 UTC  

Yeah, some parts of it have some free trade

2020-04-18 12:54:08 UTC  

No they're exclusively about free trade

2020-04-18 12:54:09 UTC  

But states still don't really care

2020-04-18 12:54:29 UTC  

The GATT is the General agreement on tariff and trade

2020-04-18 12:54:55 UTC  

The WTO the world trade organization which punishes countries for not engaging in free trade

2020-04-18 12:55:15 UTC  

It actually forced Bush to not have steel tariffs for example

2020-04-18 12:55:37 UTC  

Or the EU to let in sugar from Brazil

2020-04-18 12:55:57 UTC  

Whereas prior the EU was subsidizing sugar beets and had tariffs

2020-04-18 12:56:21 UTC  

That is not free trade

2020-04-18 12:56:30 UTC  

Free trade is deregulation

2020-04-18 12:56:39 UTC  

And no tariffs

2020-04-18 12:56:44 UTC  

free trade is trading without tariffs

2020-04-18 12:56:51 UTC  

That's it

2020-04-18 12:56:57 UTC  

Only because you reach some lower tariffs doesn't make it free trade

2020-04-18 12:57:04 UTC  

Yes it's freer than before

2020-04-18 12:57:09 UTC  

But it's not free trade

2020-04-18 12:57:42 UTC  

So you're only willing to call it free trade if literally everything has no tariffs applied to it

2020-04-18 12:57:44 UTC  

And the EU is the worst example with it's mercantilist policies

2020-04-18 12:57:51 UTC  

Because that's a ridiculous threshhold

2020-04-18 12:57:52 UTC  

> So you're only willing to call it free trade if literally everything has no tariffs applied to it
@Mr. Nessel
Yes

2020-04-18 12:58:09 UTC  

The EU has very few protectionist measures at this point

2020-04-18 12:58:15 UTC  

Hahahhaha

2020-04-18 12:58:20 UTC  

And they pretty much all relate to agriculture

2020-04-18 12:58:24 UTC  

Read some EU regulations

2020-04-18 12:58:30 UTC  

Then we talk again

2020-04-18 12:58:36 UTC  

Regulations are not tariffs

2020-04-18 12:58:48 UTC  

They are non tariff barriers

2020-04-18 12:59:11 UTC  

They implicitly higher the costs of not complying products

2020-04-18 12:59:35 UTC  

That's still not a negation of free trade

2020-04-18 12:59:36 UTC  

That's btw also, what is in the GATT and WTO terms

2020-04-18 12:59:48 UTC  

Nobody is forcing China to produce low quality garbage

2020-04-18 12:59:54 UTC  

But what noone seems to actually care about

2020-04-18 13:00:24 UTC  

Yes, because there is a demand for low quality garbage