Message from @Norik

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2020-02-18 19:55:14 UTC  

Wait akshually I’ve never understood that

2020-02-18 19:55:43 UTC  

How come the universe expands radially in all directions when everything started at a single point and gravity exists?

2020-02-18 19:55:54 UTC  

<:thonking:280946825647620096>

2020-02-18 19:56:08 UTC  

conservation of energy

2020-02-18 19:56:17 UTC  

<:thonkery:498242304792854549>

2020-02-18 19:56:19 UTC  

also gravity is a very weak force

2020-02-18 19:56:24 UTC  

extremely weak, in fact

2020-02-18 19:56:43 UTC  

Well it’s proportional to mass right?

2020-02-18 19:56:44 UTC  

gravity is so weak that your legs can overcome the force of the entire earth's gravity

2020-02-18 19:57:02 UTC  

Well but thats because it’s just the earth

2020-02-18 19:57:16 UTC  

What about the gravitational pull of all the mass in the universe?

2020-02-18 19:57:24 UTC  

the electromagnetic and nuclear forces are much stronger than gravity

2020-02-18 19:57:30 UTC  

Fair

2020-02-18 19:57:51 UTC  

also everything was given an initial momentum outward when the big bang happened

2020-02-18 19:58:00 UTC  

the universe should slow down because of gravity, though

2020-02-18 19:58:07 UTC  

but apparently the expansion is accelerating

2020-02-18 19:58:12 UTC  

still a great mystery

2020-02-18 19:58:13 UTC  

Hmm

2020-02-18 19:58:23 UTC  

Well that does make sense

2020-02-18 19:58:23 UTC  

as to why we perceive this

2020-02-18 19:58:40 UTC  

Where did that momentum come from to begin with though?

2020-02-18 19:59:08 UTC  

no one knows

2020-02-18 19:59:13 UTC  

probably no one will ever know

2020-02-18 19:59:19 UTC  

since it precedes any notion of time and space

2020-02-18 19:59:30 UTC  

I mean the principle of causality is the ultimate grounding of my belief in God

2020-02-18 19:59:39 UTC  

But sometimes that just feels like a cop-out

2020-02-18 20:00:31 UTC  

I sort of beleive that momentum was from the big explosion since in theory it is still expanding.

2020-02-18 20:00:40 UTC  

And so, everything is still moving outward.

2020-02-18 20:01:00 UTC  

yes the big bang was basically a big explosion and the momentum for that is conserved

2020-02-18 20:01:22 UTC  

Tbh tho, I beleive in the big crunch more

2020-02-18 20:01:24 UTC  

the thing about the expansion of the universe, though, is not that the objects in it are moving faster, but that space itself is expanding

2020-02-18 20:01:40 UTC  

Which is similar to the big bang, just that it is constantly repeating

2020-02-18 20:01:46 UTC  

so, let's say the universe consisted of only two particles and no gravity, and the two particles were stationary

2020-02-18 20:02:01 UTC  

in 1 billion years you'd measure them as being further apart even though they didn't move

2020-02-18 20:02:13 UTC  

because the space expanded

2020-02-18 20:02:18 UTC  

Ye

2020-02-18 20:02:26 UTC  

pretty weird

2020-02-18 20:02:34 UTC  

Space is weird

2020-02-18 20:02:39 UTC  

you can actually measure that space is not "flat" in space with lasers and things that are very far away

2020-02-18 20:02:41 UTC  

In general

2020-02-18 20:02:58 UTC  

I have seen an interesting theory that time and space are not fundamental but are emergent and that information is fundamental