Message from @Norik
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Socialism certainly had more aspirations than our elites have today. More grandiose ideas that come with central planning and whatnot
Especially them chasing the automated socialism meme towards the end
@Vulpes Depends what you mean by "based". I spent quite a bit of time in Russia. The sickness of modernity is certainly there. So materialism and nihilism are still a problem. But compared to the woke social policy in the West, it's infinitely better. At least you're not expect to believe that gender doesn't exist. It's not perfect, but still way better.
But day to day life not so much
Gouda cheese
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Heres the thing
I have heard from Russians that putin likes to play the diversity game with the Tartars and other ethnic minorities, the rampant abortion and that the media is also pushing liberalism. In all it's not as bad as in the west, but I think that the "Russia is gona save the Europe" thing is a meme
inb4 at everyone hot take
Can we name a list of based states?
No they’re all cucked in their own way
I think we’re gonna need non Nat-Soc Fascism in Eastern Europe
Eh
Look at Spain
30 years of fascism and immediately became one of the most pozzed countries in the world within 10 years
You need to address the factors which lead to cultural degeneration
Not the symptoms
What is it though?
Read uncle ted
Unironicaly
Uncle ted has a lot more writings than just his famous manifesto
I haven't read him but it is on my reading list
@Vulpes Russia doesn't have affirmative action to my knowledge. You'll see Central Asian guys working on the streets, but the businesses are almost entirely white (at least from what I saw). I'd say the average person is about as "based" as your average Republican voter from Alabama. I met a few liberals (they seem to have absorbed it through pop culture), but they don't have institutional power.
But yes. No one is going to save the rest of Europe. Europeans need to save themselves. If the big countries (UK, France, and Germany) fall, the rest probably will too.
Facts
I don't like to think of countries as "based" or "cucked". The only thing that matters is the ideas that have institutional power. The average person of any country doesn't have any power or much interest in politics. They'll generally follow the rules passed down by the culture which the institutions influence.
we need to destroy pop culture somehow
BUT I NEED TO CONSOOM
Consume product
Then get excited for next product
to small glasses
I agree with the point about institutional control, but I’d add that demographics are the ultimate determinant over the long term. Institutions will always swing and there will always be intellectual fads, but as long as there’s another clean generation in the wait they will always revert back to the norm.
The problem with demographic shift is that the norm is fundamentally transformed, such that it can never be returned to
Russia is pretty bad demographically so I think they'll just eventually transition into an ethnocracy
It'll still claim to be antiracist because it's a multiracial empire
I also don't think homogeneity is a panacea, not even in the long run
Conformity is a big hurdle and I don't think we have properly figured out how to overcome it
Homogeneity isn’t necessarily the goal as long as there’s a solid and dominant ethnic core
Think Germans in the HRE/Austro-Hungary, Russians in the Russian Empire or the USSR, Chinese in Singapore, anglos in Canada, etc
Which is why I think Russia will be an ethnocracy eventually