If you remove the people who made the culture you make the culture lose most of its value

Its too late to deconstruct a German identity, even if it is a social construct, its already a sort of meta narrative.

@Mac Yes. Get to the point.

The reason why I am getting hung up on this is because your theories won't be applied just to blacks trying to assimilate to Britain, but they will also have as their consequence that the Middle East will be permanently cut off from Europe.

@AH-64 Because those Turks would most likely have a group/ethnic identity agenda that is hostile to almost every White group. Many Turks seek to conquer southeast Europe and reform the Ottoman Empire. That is not in the interest of White people.

The middle east isn't European

This argument is retard if you switch the categorical race with instead with anything else

Europeans diverged from middle easterners millennia ago

We're the product of hunter gatherers, early European farmers and Indo Europeans mixing

@Mac My argument is precisely that you do just that.

Kind of why Ashkenazim are not white, their peoples group interests are opposed to that of most Whites.

Turks are a population of Mutts

They have white admixture but they're not white

>Europeans diverged from middle easterners millennia ago
You do know that Constantinople is in the Middle East, right?

You mentioned the middle east

Turks aren't white either

"Middle Easterners" aren't even an ethnicity

They're heavily mixed

Middle easterners are Caucasians who haven't migrated into Europe etc.
They're racially distinct from us

Are you jewish or just a lolbert?

Turks have some White admixture but its 20-30% at most. The ones who are majority white genetically are basically Albanians/Slavs who ancestors converted.

You have a point with Turks, maybe also Persians and everything east from Persia. It gets silly when you look at the people that have populated the Eastern Roman Empire.

Most Turks admixed with Arabs or Arabized Iranic peoples when prior to conquering Anatolia, and before even that they were basically Hapa Selcuks from Turkmenistan

We hardly have any data about the racial makeup of the eastern Roman empire

It definitely was whiter than the regions are now

Syrians etc. were never white though

Define white

The descendants of European hunter gatherers, early European farmers and Indo Europeans

Turks are huwhitish

All of which diverged from "old" Caucasians in the Levant millennia ago

if they converted to Christianity

Peoples indigenous to Europe and their descendants outside is a major one definition.

Idn

Kurds are scum

^

there are a lot of qt turkish women

>The descendants of European hunter gatherers, early European farmers and Indo Europeans
What about the Phoenicians?

Not white

A lot of turks just look huwhite tbh

Related but not white

Maronites are kind of honarary to me