Message from @TheEternalSearcher π Šπ ”

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2020-04-07 20:08:22 UTC  

Oof

2020-04-07 20:08:24 UTC  

Had me fooled

2020-04-07 20:09:12 UTC  

(((The invention of agriculture))) based nomadic paganism

2020-04-07 20:09:16 UTC  

Race is a lot more tangible than colour and really if there are edge cases just exclude them

2020-04-07 20:09:44 UTC  

I know it when I see it isn't what we operate with anymore

2020-04-07 20:10:30 UTC  

We have genetic tests now

2020-04-07 20:10:56 UTC  

Which just so happen to allign with the notions of race we had prior

2020-04-07 20:12:07 UTC  

Anyway we can acknowledge that some nonwhite populations are closer to us than others and treat them accordingly

2020-04-07 20:12:36 UTC  

No need for a pure in and out dichotomy

2020-04-07 20:13:40 UTC  

I noticed that you guys were discussing about who is white so I decided to shill for mine definition.

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2020-04-07 20:14:34 UTC  

Maltese people aren't Italians

2020-04-07 20:15:32 UTC  

They are a mixture of Europeans and Arabs and speak a language derived from Arabic to this day and converted to christianity

2020-04-07 20:16:18 UTC  

Also Uralics are hardly a homogeneous population

2020-04-07 20:16:59 UTC  

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2020-04-07 20:17:32 UTC  

"through much mixing and hybridisation"

2020-04-07 20:19:04 UTC  

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2020-04-07 20:19:53 UTC  

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2020-04-07 20:21:19 UTC  

c

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2020-04-07 20:22:17 UTC  

Yeah they cluster with other mixed populations like jews

2020-04-07 20:22:36 UTC  

Or Cypriots

2020-04-07 20:23:01 UTC  

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2020-04-07 20:23:19 UTC  

Sardinians and South Italians are in the spot where they are mostly because they're almost entirely early European farmers

2020-04-07 20:24:17 UTC  

Since early European farmers are closest to middle easterners of the three European ancestry sources

2020-04-07 20:24:58 UTC  

Yes but are basically the same genetically.

2020-04-07 20:25:01 UTC  

If you pay attention Ashkenazis are around about where Maltese are too

2020-04-07 20:26:22 UTC  

I'm fairly open to them being meds but I remember seeing something showing their admixture sources

2020-04-07 20:26:33 UTC  

Here’s a response to vargs thoughts on writing since the original video isn’t up

2020-04-07 20:28:43 UTC  

somethign like this

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2020-04-07 20:34:18 UTC  

> I am not deconstructing the reality of race but your conception of it.
You haven't deconstructed any conception at all you have done is say that there are groups are close to being white or that you can break down whites into more groups within the category.

> This begs the question of how exactly your categorization works. It's not as simple as with color.
Like you said "categorizing by phenotype, genotype, and also geography, linguistics, history". It is not simple but it does not mean the categories are not there

> What may be insurmountable is the fact that there are peoples who, for whatever reason, don't know entire color families but have twenty names for shades of green
And?

> You already saw it here, some people admitted to Christian Arabs being "honorary whites".
Do you know what that means? They are admitting to the fact that these **people are not white** but since these Arabs maintained Christianity in there heavily Islamic homeland's they are gotten the "honorary" status.

> If some tribe has no concept of redness, can we say red has a mind-independent existence? Hardly. In that, colors are different from ethnic groups.
And? It is still a category and there is no shit lib tier arguments that will change that. @AH-64

2020-04-07 20:36:01 UTC  

@Mac I'll get back at you tomorrow. Don't have the time for a proper response rn.

2020-04-07 20:38:06 UTC  

Will watch

2020-04-07 20:38:23 UTC  

Its fine @AH-64

2020-04-07 20:42:01 UTC  

Bro I love Masaman. Good Stuff on Genetics

2020-04-07 20:42:09 UTC  

Same

2020-04-07 20:45:39 UTC  

I'll concede Malta is mediterranean. I must've misremembered or been confused because of Fst maps

2020-04-07 20:47:13 UTC  

I'll make sure to look up stuff for Cyprus again just to be sure I'm not talking nonsense

2020-04-07 20:48:01 UTC  

People are confusing Genetic cluster maps, admixture and haplogroups for all being the same thing and its very annoying. If we were to use haplogroups to determine what someone is then we would have to say that the pastoralists of Central west Africa are white since most of their haplogroup is R1B

2020-04-07 20:48:36 UTC  

I'm aware haplogroups aren't good for determining race, just migration patterns

2020-04-07 20:49:04 UTC  

And I know there are downsides to Fst but I must've gotten it mixed up nonetheless