Message from @TheEternalSearcher π π
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Oof
Had me fooled
(((The invention of agriculture))) based nomadic paganism
Race is a lot more tangible than colour and really if there are edge cases just exclude them
I know it when I see it isn't what we operate with anymore
We have genetic tests now
Which just so happen to allign with the notions of race we had prior
Anyway we can acknowledge that some nonwhite populations are closer to us than others and treat them accordingly
No need for a pure in and out dichotomy
I noticed that you guys were discussing about who is white so I decided to shill for mine definition.
Maltese people aren't Italians
They are a mixture of Europeans and Arabs and speak a language derived from Arabic to this day and converted to christianity
Also Uralics are hardly a homogeneous population
"through much mixing and hybridisation"
Yeah they cluster with other mixed populations like jews
Or Cypriots
Sardinians and South Italians are in the spot where they are mostly because they're almost entirely early European farmers
Since early European farmers are closest to middle easterners of the three European ancestry sources
Yes but are basically the same genetically.
If you pay attention Ashkenazis are around about where Maltese are too
I'm fairly open to them being meds but I remember seeing something showing their admixture sources
Hereβs a response to vargs thoughts on writing since the original video isnβt up
> I am not deconstructing the reality of race but your conception of it.
You haven't deconstructed any conception at all you have done is say that there are groups are close to being white or that you can break down whites into more groups within the category.
> This begs the question of how exactly your categorization works. It's not as simple as with color.
Like you said "categorizing by phenotype, genotype, and also geography, linguistics, history". It is not simple but it does not mean the categories are not there
> What may be insurmountable is the fact that there are peoples who, for whatever reason, don't know entire color families but have twenty names for shades of green
And?
> You already saw it here, some people admitted to Christian Arabs being "honorary whites".
Do you know what that means? They are admitting to the fact that these **people are not white** but since these Arabs maintained Christianity in there heavily Islamic homeland's they are gotten the "honorary" status.
> If some tribe has no concept of redness, can we say red has a mind-independent existence? Hardly. In that, colors are different from ethnic groups.
And? It is still a category and there is no shit lib tier arguments that will change that. @AH-64
@Mac I'll get back at you tomorrow. Don't have the time for a proper response rn.
Will watch
Bro I love Masaman. Good Stuff on Genetics
Same
I'll concede Malta is mediterranean. I must've misremembered or been confused because of Fst maps
I'll make sure to look up stuff for Cyprus again just to be sure I'm not talking nonsense
People are confusing Genetic cluster maps, admixture and haplogroups for all being the same thing and its very annoying. If we were to use haplogroups to determine what someone is then we would have to say that the pastoralists of Central west Africa are white since most of their haplogroup is R1B
I'm aware haplogroups aren't good for determining race, just migration patterns
And I know there are downsides to Fst but I must've gotten it mixed up nonetheless