Message from @(JUMP) 璟熙帝

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2020-04-19 18:10:21 UTC  

It’s kinda sad to see what the LGBT propaganda has done to people I know. I hate it.

2020-04-19 18:11:54 UTC  

lol orbans goverment banned legal gender change

2020-04-19 18:12:57 UTC  

context in hungarian, both gender and sex means the same thing and there's a birth sex in someones papers

2020-04-19 18:13:04 UTC  

and its now illegal to change it

2020-04-19 18:13:20 UTC  

BASED!!! I wish America would go back to that.

2020-04-19 18:13:43 UTC  

Shouldn’t even have to say based should call it being normal human beings.

2020-04-19 18:20:13 UTC  

@Imperial J. Yay Confederation is amalgamation of conservatives and lolbetarians. They also have zio shills and cryptos. I wouldn't put my money on them.

2020-04-19 18:20:52 UTC  

yeah but the current ruling party is the same

2020-04-19 18:21:03 UTC  

with more zionists and cryptos

2020-04-19 18:35:49 UTC  

Oh, so left-wing collectivism is economic and right-wing collectivism is social. I get it. It kind of makes sense why Oswald Spengler tried the tie Prussian Socialism to the right-wing.

2020-04-19 18:37:58 UTC  

So if the right is about hierarchy and capitalism is about hierarchy why are so many on the far-right like Hitler or Mussolini opposed to capitalism?

2020-04-19 18:44:00 UTC  

@Skeleton capitalism breeds war profiteers

2020-04-19 19:16:42 UTC  

I think the collective/individual dichotomy is a dumb result of 20th century circumstance

2020-04-19 19:16:54 UTC  

@Skeleton capitalism if not controlled introduces lobbies and theird party interests that can and will interfere in countries policies, it leads to worship of money and GDP as end itself for society which in effect is a fertile ground for growth of social pathologies. Small scale capitalism is alright, but large scale capitalism will pretty much always lead to weakening of a nation in their own state. Unless capitalism is under the state's boot (like China) you will always end up on a losing position.

2020-04-19 19:17:07 UTC  

Where the left happened to be communist and the right corporatist

2020-04-19 19:18:11 UTC  

But if you look at say, the French Revolution, the right is absolutist and authoritarian while the left is liberal, and yet they’re both “collectivist” as we would interpret that word today

2020-04-19 19:19:41 UTC  

Ultimately the way I see it the right is about tradition and hierarchy, while left is about progress and equality

2020-04-19 19:20:07 UTC  

All other parameters are functions of environment and historical circumstance

2020-04-19 19:28:40 UTC  

i have to work tommorow fuck me

2020-04-19 19:32:51 UTC  

Hey hey people

2020-04-19 19:34:54 UTC  

@Norik correct take

2020-04-19 19:36:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/701516520118943784/EV2hpoiXQAgXr30.jpg

2020-04-19 19:38:01 UTC  

Wassup peoples

2020-04-19 19:41:29 UTC  

@Dr. Ron /Pol/ pic of the demographic that seems (borderline) incapable of raising children and being fathers

2020-04-19 20:02:00 UTC  

Regarding the Bernie bro vid I think it's unlikely most are going to be converted but a chunk probably will if the dissident right were relevant enough to be in the public's mind
It'd definitely be a transformative process and unlikely to work like with libertarians where they drag a lot of their older notions with them. I don't see it happening at all unless they radicalize in the first place. Imo a demsoc is less likely to switch sides than one who is more authoritarian. That's why you saw a number of communists switch to the Nsdap in Germany but not social democrats to the same degree

2020-04-19 20:02:12 UTC  

Also basically ignore the twitter crowd on this

2020-04-19 20:03:13 UTC  

I don't think most are as invested as the people there

2020-04-19 20:07:06 UTC  

Also you're not going to convert them in person. I don't think arguments etc. about how immigration is hurting workers work because that's not how most people operate

2020-04-19 20:07:20 UTC  

People on the internet and irl are entirely different animal

2020-04-19 20:07:37 UTC  

Most people are conformists and just latch on to an idea cluster

2020-04-19 20:08:20 UTC  

So you aren't going to convince bernie bros or normies in the wider sense using the marketplace of ideas or whatever

2020-04-19 20:09:12 UTC  

I was a Bernie Supporter in 2016 so it is possible but you need to give them a ramp off, appeal to them based on their own arguments. So make Immigration based around Worker Rights, Make them accept that we need assimilation cause Muslims hate gays or something and then slowly but surely work them to being NRX

2020-04-19 20:09:46 UTC  

I don't think that's how most people work

2020-04-19 20:10:08 UTC  

Conformists will hear the arguments and it'll wash off of them

2020-04-19 20:10:42 UTC  

Because there's a herd mentality in most people

2020-04-19 20:11:52 UTC  

Or rather conformist mindset where they trust in their authority to a larger degree than more nonconformist types

2020-04-19 20:13:04 UTC  

So it is crucial to first make them distrust their herd/leader. The moment they become disillusioned they are ready for some new thing to latch on to

2020-04-19 20:16:23 UTC  

I don’t know about that

2020-04-19 20:16:52 UTC  

Most socdem lefties hate the DNC, especially after Bernie’s double cucking

2020-04-19 20:17:01 UTC  

And yet they’re all going to vote for Biden anyway

2020-04-19 20:17:19 UTC  

Or at least enough of them to make the dissidents statistically insignificant