Not just that

Tanks are good because they're hard to destroy but what's the point of a tank with outdated armour

This is btw the reason why Russia is taking an interest in technicals

also iraqi army never recovered from the 1991 war
and they were in terrible shape
since the iran iraq war
they used practice ammuntion vs modern american tanks
they had no air support
no helicopters
no modern atgms
no trained infantry
just a rag tag militia with obsolete weaponry

Russia doesn't have a cold war military budget anymore and its economy is roughly comparable to Italy's or that of the Benelux countries

BUDGET

AHAHAHAHA

It's an issue if not only you can't afford to buy your most modern tanks but have a hard time updating older ones

It's not a joke

so because of budget russia will lose against the on existing armies of france,germany and Uk

hahaha

italy has mothballed all its tanks
they barely have 60 operational
germany has 300 tanks
france and uk have 200 tanks
thats assuming they manage to deploy them all to poland

lmao

Sure Germany doesn't have as many tanks as Russia right now but the ones we have are better, we have a large military industrial complex which exports tanks and can put out a lot more

you should listen more to your armchair genrals in the west
even they acknowlege NATO would get crushed ina conventional gound war

I seriously doubt that

of course you do xD

I'm more concerned about China tbqh

yes

of course xd

Why, China can't really do anything beyond its own region militarily

just like how saudi arabia has massive budget but they are getting fucked by a banuch of yemeni goat herders
just like how the taliban made a mockery of mighty NATO which is still stuck in afghanistan 20 years later

China just has the industry to outproduce us

as if budget can help you win a war

Look at the industrial sectors

Germany's industrial sector is roughly comparable to Russias but we have a budget

Of course under total mobilization things would be different

bro you do realise that in a modern conventional war
you fight with waht you have
a modern tank takes months to produce
and thats assuming enemy cruise missiles haven't demolished the factory already

You don't just fight with what you have. In a prolonged war industry decides whose losses hurt more

what

ok you are losing it

LET ME GET IT THROUGH YOUR SKULL

it will be ashort war

and it will end in couple of weeks

Unlikely

Look besides all these cold war tanks what advantage does Russia really have

It'll take months to get most running

because europe today
unlike before ww2 is completly demilitarized
and poland will only be a temporary speedbump

Europe isn't compeltely demilitarized lmao

We have all sort of arms exporters here

And standing armies if taken together could easily stand up against Russia