Message from @clossington

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2020-02-18 14:40:33 UTC  

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2020-02-18 14:40:54 UTC  

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2020-02-18 14:44:40 UTC  

Imgur is absolutely shit

2020-02-18 14:44:53 UTC  

the site is written so bad

2020-02-18 14:45:39 UTC  

No, I'm a mossad agent

2020-02-18 14:45:50 UTC  

Nice

2020-02-18 14:47:19 UTC  

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2020-02-18 14:47:34 UTC  

I did

2020-02-18 22:26:37 UTC  

@clossington most short histories seem normie, just the nature of the style. If you do keep reading it let me know how he covers the continentals, I've been told he struggles making sense of Hegel and Heidegger.

2020-02-18 22:27:40 UTC  

I don’t think he goes over Heidegger in my book

2020-02-18 22:29:05 UTC  

>goes over modern philosophy
>doesn't cover one of the greatest German thinkers
very homogay

2020-02-18 22:42:08 UTC  

Scruton isn’t particularly great on modern philosophy

2020-02-18 22:42:45 UTC  

But he wasn’t supposed to be

2020-02-18 22:43:02 UTC  

he knows Kant quite well

2020-02-18 22:43:40 UTC  

Didn’t he subscribe to most of Kant’s ethos?

2020-02-18 22:44:25 UTC  

<:GWaobloChildPepeShrug:407618817569718272> I read his introduction to Kant and liked it

2020-02-18 22:44:30 UTC  

thats about as far as i went

2020-02-18 22:45:35 UTC  

In his Why Beauty Matters documentary, he gushed over Kant

2020-02-18 22:45:56 UTC  

yes

2020-02-18 22:46:24 UTC  

still if one talks about a history of modern philosophy Heidegger is a big name and not covering him shows you as inept to some degree

2020-02-18 22:57:31 UTC  

Heidegger goes over natural beauty and natural order very thoroughly iirc

2020-02-18 22:57:44 UTC  

It’s a shame Scruton probably never read it

2020-02-18 23:01:06 UTC  

iirc Scruton made a comment something like "If Heidegger is saying something it is brilliant however if he is merely rambling about nonsense then it means very little, and it can be hard to tell which is it"

2020-02-18 23:01:43 UTC  

don't quote me on it tho

2020-02-18 23:02:50 UTC  

>Heidegger goes over natural beauty and natural order very thoroughly iirc
he goes over poetry and by extension beauty extensively in his later work, normally going back to the oldest Greeks for inspiration

2020-02-18 23:09:44 UTC  

Didn’t Heidegger hate aesthetics or aestheticism?

2020-02-18 23:09:48 UTC  

Something like that

2020-02-18 23:10:15 UTC  

I barely understand Heidegger most of the time

2020-02-18 23:11:01 UTC  

he hated modern aesthetics

2020-02-18 23:11:33 UTC  

thought they were just a follow on from subjectivism established by the subject/object spilt

2020-02-18 23:11:54 UTC  

Fair enough

2020-02-18 23:13:02 UTC  

you have to understand that Heidegger is trying to bring back a pre-Socratic understanding of truth

2020-02-18 23:13:40 UTC  

Descartes is a disliked figure to say the least

2020-02-18 23:15:36 UTC  

There’s something about uprooting 2200 years of philosophy and reconstructing a new one from the ground up that’s a little pretentious, especially if you have to create a thousand new words to go along with it and Heidegger is a difficult writer

2020-02-18 23:21:36 UTC  

ree
he didn't create a thousand new words he just correctly translated them

2020-02-18 23:21:47 UTC  

but yes he did understand the gravity of his position

2020-02-18 23:22:27 UTC  

he was never overly disrespectful to the thinkers that came before him

2020-02-18 23:23:19 UTC  

Heidegger is a very difficult writer to understand, but it isn't for his word usage but the subjects he is trying to speak on

2020-02-18 23:55:59 UTC  

It would have helped if he used the correct terms for things

2020-02-19 00:12:24 UTC  

?

2020-02-19 00:12:33 UTC  

what things and what terms