Message from @21ooAB

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2020-03-27 01:54:19 UTC  

@Narmer You're a strong nationalist and conservative, but you're also not punitive at all, very communist and revolutionary. Seems a bit confused

2020-03-27 02:01:41 UTC  

What's wrong with revolution in the sense politiscales gives

2020-03-27 02:01:54 UTC  

We all know democratic reform is a joke

2020-03-27 02:02:06 UTC  

And violence is inherent in politics

2020-03-27 02:02:15 UTC  

🐙

2020-03-27 02:05:23 UTC  

Well it's simple, I see crime as a societal failure, not just the failure of the individual. It is the job of the nation and therefor the people to make sure that the youth are raised up to be strong pillars of the community. For example if a man is prone to beating his spouse it's probably because he too was raised around such violence. It takes a village to raise a child, which is why neo liberalism prefers to destroy the sense of community, for they dont want men of character, they want slaves. Punitive justice in the modern world is just an excuse to not adress the problems liberalism caused.

2020-03-27 02:08:59 UTC  

Criminals have always and will always exist. The problem may be exacerbated or decreased by the societal structure, but fundamentally you will always have people who will break the law.

2020-03-27 02:09:29 UTC  

But I broadly agree, neo-liberalism is cancer and destroys communities.

2020-03-27 02:10:22 UTC  

But I also think that the main goal of the law should be to maintain order, not to try to rehabilitate criminals back into the society.

2020-03-27 02:14:29 UTC  

Well they don't do well at maintaining order, send a crook to prison and he'll just learn to be a better crook. I agree some people just need the punitive treatment, but a lot of these people are the result of the system and will only perpetuate the cycle of violence if not given propper treatment.

Ontop of that this approach allows you to also reducate political dissidents by sculpting them into propper citizens, instead of letting them be a thorn in the side of your nation.

2020-03-27 02:14:53 UTC  

Just put them under forced community service to pay for the paychecks of the Sinecures

2020-03-27 02:17:32 UTC  

I believe some criminals are predisposed to criminality by birth, and no amount of rehabilitation will change that. Those people should get the bullet. The others, who commit crimes because of unfortunate circumstances should be attempted to be rehabilitated, but should still be punished for what they did.

2020-03-27 02:17:55 UTC  

Execute all criminals

2020-03-27 02:17:59 UTC  

No matter the crime

2020-03-27 02:18:04 UTC  

No matter the age

2020-03-27 02:18:07 UTC  

Also, imprisoning political dissidents and brain washing them is not gonna work

2020-03-27 02:18:20 UTC  

@Shekel Stealer Dude, its called exile

2020-03-27 02:18:23 UTC  

*laughs in China*

2020-03-27 02:18:37 UTC  

@21ooAB Dude it's called a bullet

2020-03-27 02:18:55 UTC  

So we should put a bullet in millions of white liberals?

2020-03-27 02:18:59 UTC  

I'd rather just deport them

2020-03-27 02:19:15 UTC  

I'd rather not become a genocidal warlord

2020-03-27 02:19:21 UTC  

White liberal normies are not political dissidents

2020-03-27 02:19:26 UTC  

Yes they are

2020-03-27 02:19:27 UTC  

White liberal normies are normies

2020-03-27 02:19:33 UTC  

They won't be a thorn in your side

2020-03-27 02:19:35 UTC  

they pose a threat to order

2020-03-27 02:19:43 UTC  

Any degree of subversion must not be tolerated

2020-03-27 02:19:44 UTC  

The zealots do

2020-03-27 02:19:45 UTC  

They aren't really dissident under the current world order

2020-03-27 02:19:47 UTC  

The normies don't

2020-03-27 02:19:49 UTC  

No

2020-03-27 02:19:52 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-27 02:19:57 UTC  

I mean, they will become political dissidents

2020-03-27 02:20:01 UTC  

Without the zealots, the normies are nothing

2020-03-27 02:20:01 UTC  

will we deem them as such

2020-03-27 02:20:03 UTC  

and banish them

2020-03-27 02:20:24 UTC  

Banish all normies, nice, we just banished 90% of our own people

2020-03-27 02:20:43 UTC  

You can't just give the bullet to everyone who is predisposed to criminality, the man who steals is a petty criminal, the man who murders is a monster,~~the man who murders a Jew is a hero.~~

2020-03-27 02:20:44 UTC  

That is correct, as those who remain are artificially selected for the best traits