We are an energy based economy. If it came down to solar vs pretty much any facet of that civilization I can tell you what will win

provided we have enough foresight to do it soon enough.

but point still remains. hydrocarbons will not last forever.

Like I said, your looking at a problem that is possibly centuries away

we cant even concieve of what options we will have available by the time we in our current level would have seen an energy crisis

But that is not the arguement. there are other energy sources, and destorying potenital tourism sectors with solar farms.

not if the undeveloped world starts developing.

Wind and current energy are great alternatives.

As Wind turbines can be made to look astecically pleasing.

And current farms are invisable to the naked eye.

Canada man I was talking about solar and since we are moving on here it not really relivant given the efficiency of Nuclear

True.

Thats even assuming we dont nix Fusion within the next 50 years

Nuclear energy is effeicent but the stigma is still there depending on the saftey nets provided.

even if we dont we have the benifit of a few hundred years of hydrocarbons and uranium+low level reactives like thoreum

There is really no point in freaking out over something like peak oil

Mhm.

But we all can agree that telsea is shit right?.

yeah, thats just a hipster money trap

Thank you.

Have had a hard time convinceing normies on the fact telesa sucks.

the real question is how many years of hydrocarbons do we have left? 50?

we boosted our technology dramatically because of cheap easy energy.

Depends on what happens over the next 50 years. I would say Hydrocarbons will remain the dominent energy market untill at least 2040

By then depends on technology and geopolitics

Just out fo curosity, what are Hydrocarbons?.

Just like the Malthusian trap, peak oil is real. It's just pushed back with each technology and energy deposit found.

oil coal natural gas

Ah, Alright.

And just like the Malthusian trap its an easy bet that our technology will make it irrelivant for the forseeable future

Honestly, without those fuels the middle east's economy will go under within mear 4 years.

Or sooner.

Well yes XD

Depending on what they invest that money they have right now into.

provided that we keep innovating at an ever increasing rate.

I have heard that they are investing in an agraian project within UAE.

Oil Arabs just waste money

Mhm, but it seems there trying to make there land "Airable".

But most or alot of there money is going into material items as of now.

Not even an ever increasing rate. The only thing we have to do is figure out how Fusion works.
And like I said we have a cusion of hundreads perhaps a few thousand years at current consumption rates and even if we triple it we would still have centuries.

they spent 1 billion dollars trying to mitigate the side effects from consanguinity