Message from @The Leaf

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2020-02-08 21:05:47 UTC  

fam...

2020-02-08 21:05:58 UTC  

What?

2020-02-08 21:06:06 UTC  

King are men

2020-02-08 21:06:10 UTC  

It’s HIS children

2020-02-08 21:06:31 UTC  

Don’t adopt leftist nonenglish

2020-02-08 21:06:43 UTC  

I was thinking of king AND Queen when I said the their bit.

2020-02-08 21:07:15 UTC  

I just didn’t put Queen in there because I was being retarded.

2020-02-08 21:07:35 UTC  

Machiavelli talks about this in The Prince

2020-02-08 21:07:42 UTC  

I agree that saying their for everything is gay af.

2020-02-08 21:07:47 UTC  

Good times create weak men etc

2020-02-08 21:08:09 UTC  

A prince ought to be educated in the history of warfare and be raised to hunt

2020-02-08 21:08:29 UTC  

To know what it takes to lure and kill your enemies and to learn the lay of the land

2020-02-08 21:08:40 UTC  

How valleys slope and forests conceal

2020-02-08 21:08:55 UTC  

Everyone should. It is just extra important for rulers to.

2020-02-08 21:09:02 UTC  

So that he may know how to lead a battle when the time comes

2020-02-08 21:09:36 UTC  

Reminder that the mongols were raised hunting mice and herding on horseback

2020-02-08 21:10:01 UTC  

And conquered half the world’s population in an afternoon with six horses and a banana

2020-02-08 21:11:50 UTC  

Anyway not a question

2020-02-08 21:11:53 UTC  

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2020-02-08 21:12:30 UTC  

K

2020-02-08 21:17:18 UTC  

If a monarch makes an elected parliament to represent the people will that inevitably spiral into further loss of a monarch’s power or can a monarch’s power remain if a parliament exists?

2020-02-08 21:19:37 UTC  

Now there’s a good question

2020-02-08 21:19:40 UTC  

It’s hard to say

2020-02-08 21:20:01 UTC  

There’s not a large enough sample size to determine a clear trend

2020-02-08 21:20:42 UTC  

The British monarchy was pretty solid for centuries even with a separate legislature

2020-02-08 21:20:53 UTC  

Though of course their system has Lords n shiet

2020-02-08 21:21:12 UTC  

The king was still pretty powerful until after the war

2020-02-08 21:21:44 UTC  

And that was largely due to the complacency and weakness of the sitting monarch, rather than a systemic failure

2020-02-08 21:21:53 UTC  

IMO

2020-02-08 21:27:39 UTC  

I think that the system can exist for long periods when things are going good or ok but when hardship hits people tend to blame the system instead of the actual causes.

2020-02-08 21:29:23 UTC  

The parliament and House of Lords were fine because Britain was doing well.

2020-02-08 21:30:19 UTC  

But when they stopped doing as well the kings powers were taken.

2020-02-08 22:10:37 UTC  

it's almost as if the system of government is secondary to a strong culture and society

2020-02-08 22:10:50 UTC  

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2020-02-09 06:46:37 UTC  

Eh

2020-02-09 06:47:13 UTC  

Both reinforce eachother

2020-02-09 09:34:07 UTC  

As far as I can tell any sort of federal assembly is a bad idea in the longterm

2020-02-09 09:35:21 UTC  

If you have a parliament, the one thing it can agree on always is empowering parliament. Even one moment of monarchical weakness and you end up with a figurehead

2020-02-09 09:36:02 UTC  

And once parliament is in charge I think we can observe in history there's always been a drive to expand the franchise

2020-02-09 09:36:58 UTC  

If anything have regional parliament or better yet make large cities republican enclaves

2020-02-09 10:33:06 UTC  

I like large cities being mini republics, buy I'd also like to point out the necessity of Parliaments, of which all medieval monarchs had a form, for feudal tax collection. You're gonna have to find another way for people to consent to tax and your government.