Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-03-06 19:54:12 UTC  

@Endeavour What happened to your video about the 1848 Hungarian revolution?

2020-03-06 22:14:28 UTC  

@Imperial J. Yay I deleted it. I changed my mind on the arguments I made. I felt I was too sympathetic to liberal movements which I don't actually support.

2020-03-06 22:21:46 UTC  

Feel conflicted about the German equivalent as well

2020-03-06 22:22:15 UTC  

Good that eventually nationalism got reintegrated into the old structures, if only for a short time

2020-03-06 22:24:04 UTC  

I agree tbh

2020-03-06 22:24:43 UTC  

even if not for the revolution Austria would have to make a compromise in one way or another

2020-03-06 22:25:20 UTC  

and a conservative compromise is way better than a liberal revolution

2020-03-06 22:29:59 UTC  

any thoughts on dutch converting church to a library

2020-03-06 22:30:24 UTC  

better than demolishing it

2020-03-06 22:30:32 UTC  

my thoughts exactly

2020-03-06 22:30:36 UTC  

The other thing I question is how similar will Nationalism today (if we should even call it that) will actually be to the 19th century. I tend to think it won't be similar at all, but something completely different. Kind of like what I discussed on my stream with Keith Woods.

2020-03-06 22:31:04 UTC  

but still
blackpilling
how bad is the church attendance when it has to be coverted to something else

2020-03-06 22:31:57 UTC  

in mudslime neighbourhoods in UK
churches are regularly vandalized
>but if you throw a bacon on a mosque

2020-03-06 22:56:23 UTC  

What is the reactionary take on economics? Austrian, Keynesian, MMT, etc?

2020-03-06 22:59:35 UTC  

I know economics aren't exactly the hot topic nowadays, but I just watched the Keith Woods video on MMT, and while some of it sounds right, I distrust it.

2020-03-06 23:02:29 UTC  

Anything that gives the primacy of power to the productive entities of society (businesses) will inevitably become the Neoliberalism of today

2020-03-06 23:03:42 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668949999547318272/685623676925902870/islam.png

2020-03-06 23:14:55 UTC  

Bring back mercantilism

2020-03-06 23:16:08 UTC  

State intervention when appropriate shouldn't be out of the question

2020-03-06 23:16:42 UTC  

But generally the economy needs to be less politicized and subordinate to the state and its interests

2020-03-06 23:17:29 UTC  

Also do away with fractional reserve banking since it undermines the state monopoly on currency

2020-03-06 23:17:29 UTC  

If I recall, Mercantilism was replaced by Economic Liberalization when the very same Nation-States and Empires figured out that Liberalism can make more money for them with less Mercantilist wars for resources

2020-03-06 23:17:55 UTC  

Mercantilism and ISI is what industrialized the west

2020-03-06 23:18:13 UTC  

Liberalism is what gave you cheap imports and higher profits for those that outsource

2020-03-06 23:18:41 UTC  

In a way mercantilism has enabled the merchant class, but it shouldn't be seen as the preferred policy of them

2020-03-06 23:19:01 UTC  

Or the WTO wouldn't exist, outsourcing wouldn't exist and we wouldn't have free trade

2020-03-06 23:19:23 UTC  

Mercantalism enabled the merchants who used their newfound powers to then bring forth liberalism

2020-03-06 23:19:32 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-06 23:19:56 UTC  

But you could only remove those powers by impoverishing them or foricng them to fall in line

2020-03-06 23:20:00 UTC  

Like China does

2020-03-06 23:20:12 UTC  

China unironically is doing ISI right

2020-03-06 23:20:27 UTC  

ISI being import substitution industrialization

2020-03-06 23:20:31 UTC  

With a focus on exports

2020-03-06 23:20:41 UTC  

Politics is always about the friction of power interests and mercantilism seems dangerously too close to liberalism. A state authority which is not controlled by productive entities is important

2020-03-06 23:21:00 UTC  

Arguably China is even pursuing mercantilism because of how it acquires raw resources

2020-03-06 23:21:29 UTC  

Mercantilism was about empowering the national economy not the merchant class

2020-03-06 23:22:03 UTC  

The only reason it got out of hand in Europe is that old elites didn't anticipate the new state of affairs and were slow to adapt

2020-03-06 23:22:52 UTC  

Absolutist France did little to incorporate the merchant class as a subordinate but integral part of its order, whislt continuing to court the old elites

2020-03-06 23:23:00 UTC  

That being landed nobles etc.

2020-03-06 23:35:58 UTC  

Corporatism Gang then?

2020-03-06 23:36:59 UTC  

Corporatism was interesting attempt at least