Message from @Despot Romanicus the Enslaver

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2020-03-07 00:58:13 UTC  

let me keep it this way
if there si no petrodollar
there would either be petroruble or petroyuan
it would be invaluable asset for states

2020-03-07 00:58:16 UTC  

US T-bills (treasury debt bonds) are still used heavily around the world as a safeguard

2020-03-07 00:58:46 UTC  

Petro doesnt run the world the way it used to

2020-03-07 00:59:03 UTC  

Crude is to easy to get nowadays and alternatives are becoming commonplace

2020-03-07 00:59:08 UTC  

it does
otherwise america wouldnt give a shit about straight of hormuz

2020-03-07 00:59:17 UTC  

They dont

2020-03-07 00:59:25 UTC  

@vexmasina44 it still cares about the overall price of oil

2020-03-07 00:59:26 UTC  

Its a geopolitical tool

2020-03-07 00:59:35 UTC  

Geopolitical tools are always important

2020-03-07 00:59:42 UTC  

Global Empires need to keep themselves alive you know

2020-03-07 00:59:45 UTC  

America doesnt rely upon the strait to get its oil

2020-03-07 00:59:59 UTC  

Idk about you but control over trade routes will always be useful

2020-03-07 01:00:04 UTC  

not just cause of oil

2020-03-07 01:00:09 UTC  

@Despot Romanicus the Enslaver don't disagree but the petrodollar argument was always a bit off to me.

2020-03-07 01:00:21 UTC  

The strait only matters for oil not for trade

2020-03-07 01:00:27 UTC  

General trade bypasses it

2020-03-07 01:00:53 UTC  

China controlling the south china sea is an infinately more important problem for the US

2020-03-07 01:00:55 UTC  

why would america bomb libya just after they pushed for the gold dinar
why would america invade iraq just after they announced that they would trade oil in euros

2020-03-07 01:01:17 UTC  

@vexmasina44 a little country in the middle east with no friends?

2020-03-07 01:01:20 UTC  

Geopolitical adventurism

2020-03-07 01:01:28 UTC  

More Power is always a good reason

2020-03-07 01:01:34 UTC  

Libya wasnt going to upend the economic model of the world

2020-03-07 01:01:34 UTC  

Saddam launched SCUDs at it

2020-03-07 01:01:34 UTC  

cause they hate brown people?

2020-03-07 01:01:38 UTC  

If you can take it with minimal adverse consequences for you, why not

2020-03-07 01:01:44 UTC  

You wouldnt cause the biggest humanitarian crisis over some adventurism

2020-03-07 01:02:01 UTC  

The elites benifitted from that crisis

2020-03-07 01:02:02 UTC  

@vexmasina44 neocons, am I right?

2020-03-07 01:02:03 UTC  

>Elites care about the mob

2020-03-07 01:02:05 UTC  

why wouldnt they

2020-03-07 01:02:25 UTC  

Also Gaddafi threatened Europe about somethign economcially if I recall

2020-03-07 01:02:32 UTC  

Hence why EU wanted to flatten them

2020-03-07 01:02:39 UTC  

The immigration crysis of 2015 was the biggest success for the right wing parties in entire western europe

2020-03-07 01:02:56 UTC  

And it still did fuck all for them outside of the eastern bloc

2020-03-07 01:03:01 UTC  

do you feel like your winning>?

2020-03-07 01:03:03 UTC  

The corporates are still sitting on their gilded office chairs

2020-03-07 01:03:04 UTC  

the right wing is using the unwashed brown masses as Mace to batter the heads of lefty libtards

2020-03-07 01:03:05 UTC  

Gaddafi threatening Europe economically. I'm not sure I buy that

2020-03-07 01:03:29 UTC  

Remember, it is the corporates who are really in charge

2020-03-07 01:03:38 UTC  

How would they do it?

2020-03-07 01:03:44 UTC  

Let me find @McFansy