Message from @Fighting Gold
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@21ooAB I support it. Preservation of the land is an essential component of upholding civilization. You can preserve the environment without being a leftist. In fact, considering how most leftists live in cosmopolitan cities made of blocks of glass and concrete, I wonder to what extent they really do care about the natural world. It seems like Left-Wing environmentalism is just another outlet to drum up guilt. It's an issue the right should take on.
@Endeavour Theres a difference between left wing environmentalism and preserving national parks Teddy Roosevelt style
Teddy Roosevelt should be the model for the American Right
He was a war hawk but at least he was personally involved in his wars. Like how he led a division of like several thousand men in a war against Spain.
There's not really any good Left-Wing arguments for preservation of nature because it's a materialistic ideology. The land has no intrinsic value to them. To Right-Wingers, you can make that argument.
The only thing the left can say is that it will harm people if the environment is destroyed. But if it is destroyed in order to increase material wealth, a materialist doesn't really have any good arguments against it.
Would it be fair to say that left wing solutions to “climate change” are more about power grabs than actually reducing environmental damage? Green new deal proposal in the US comes to mind.
@ItzMidrex Yes. The average person has no control over the climate, but that doesn't stop the Left from calling you a piece of shit because of climate change. Just like they do with absolutely everything.
@Endeavour. I feel that. They’ve seen more hell bent on squeezing the last life out of rural America than anything.
@ItzMidrex Yeah that's the entire point. We're already seeing the UN and Jewish groups using the phrase "climate refugees". We all know where they're going with that one...
BTW I do believe climate change is real and a potential threat, but it's obvious that the Greta movement has a very different agenda.
I enjoyed your video on finding authenticity, I wish more people would take that advice to heart.
@ItzMidrex Thanks
@Tome_Enthusiast yes there is
Is it Patreon exclusive?
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@Endeavour
1. the destruction of nations/nationalism is necessary to avoid wars.
2. Traditions are mostly superstitions, what traditions do we even want to keep and why.
My father said this to me and Im not sure, whats your take?
The destruction of nations and nationalism requires war nationalist countries in the past have been able to negotiate out of conflicts and make peace agreements and traditions aren’t mostly superstitions Ryan Faulk has a video on this recently which said that many not all but many laws and traditions had good reasons behind them even though the people that might have come up with them might not have known the exact reasons for them
is the current peace in the EU not a result of the ideological destruction of its member states?
The EU is lucky if it lasts another 20 years
and what about traditions like, idk, binding hats and shirts from plant fabric and dancing in the flowers
btw whether the eu lasts is not the question
I don’t think that all the member states have destroyed their identities yet
Like you can have peace without having a giant bureaucracy over all of your countries
Idk if I’m explaining myself right
The EU is also creating nationalism by bringing in middle eastern migrants who create trouble and by being generally inept
As for traditions I was talking was mostly like the old religious laws etc that they followed back then but now we find that there’s a scientific reason for it like how homosexual intercourse was banned by the Abrahamic religions but they didn’t have an intuitive reason for it
Now we know all the disadvantages of homosexuality in general
Not all traditions are like this
But a number of them have a certain truth to it
Or like another one is that you should marry a virgin now we know that the more sexual partners a woman had before marriage the more likely she is to divorce
@Fighting Gold idk if I explained my views well
you did but theyre not what i was inquiring about
Ok
On the nationalism question:
-you can’t destroy nationalism because it is natural to be nationalistic because you need to support your own group over others to make sure your genes survive so in short it’s foolish to try to destroy nationalism because it can’t ever be destroyed
-the USSR tried to destroy nationalism of its member groups but they still got into a number of conflicts and funded and allied with a number of groups that were at war
-in the EU they are trying to destroy nationalism to prevent war but many of the member stated have been involved in conflicts while in the EU with a number getting involved with the middle eastern conflicts
Did that do a better job with the nationalist question
thats more like it