Message from @Graylan | gray00
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im tired of him now
Okayyy shiv, Give me an example of something that is objectively moral?
Or immoral
this debate is retarded
like.. i dunno
matt destroyed him i think
I hear noam chomsky established that there is objective morality
Albert Fish killed and ate over 30 children and didn't understand why people had a beef with it... did he just not understand morality? Or was his moral standard different?
@NotQuiteHuman say we are living inside a multiverse with infinate number of possible outcomes and realities
that would make things a bit more tricky. objective may not be universal
in this case
Here's my opinion. Morality changes according to context.
I don't even know how objective or subjective morality can be proven, in any way.. anyone acting "immorally" might have a different moral standard, or they may not understand the objectively true immorality of their actions. Is there even any chance of an consensus?
For example, Killing itself is neither moral or immoral
It is moral or immoral depending on the context
another way of thinking
killing oneself brings a wave of hurt into the universe
Killing an innocent person- immoral.
Killing a rapist in self defense - moral
via connections you made
And?
I said *self defense*
so it can be justified but still bringing immoral injustice
@Deleted User I think I see where you're going. Like, putting a dog out it's misery if it's twitching in gmthe road after being hit, is moral. Compared to hitting it with a baseball bat for fun.
by pain and suffering of innocent family
like the butterful effect
I said Self defense, Grayman. What you are saying can be applied to the concept of revenge
or justice
The action itself isn't immoral nor moral; rather the intent of the perpertrator
Well, not exactly
I said context, not intent
Or the consequence?
Think about this
If there's a white supremacist walking down the road
he has a shotgun
He sees a black man raping a child in an alley
and shoots the black man
Now, a black man being shot by a white supremacist, is immoral
but, a rapist being killed to defend his victim, is moral
So intent then? Did he shoot him because he as black? Or to defend the rape victim?