that is fascism after all, the merging of state/corporate power ... its quasi-private/public

i understand how fascism works

one leg in both worlds .... quite the formidable leviathon could grow out of that

you know for most of human history we were fascist

well that is w hat theyre are trying to set up , an unelected world-government based on corporate fascism

nah fascism doesent work with international

sure, i agree with that that ... its all over in symbolism in the House of Reps, and presidents statues, etc

it wouldent really be fascism at that point, similar but not exactly

Lincoln resting is arms on the fascio bundle of rods..... Washington statue with bundle of rods under his cloak

straight up fascio bundle of rods complete with axe plastered on the House of Representives wall .... all in plain sight

well when i say for most of our human history weve been fascist i mean, for most of human history those who own the land which the grain is grown on are also those who rule

yeah, basically its technocracy

i dont inherently think its a bad thing, though if an international entity that has no holdings to the native people of a nation is the one who owns the land and rules the people then i think that can be a VERY bad thing

ya, feudalism and the roman empire, etc... sure has been the "default" way of governing for more of human history for sure

ya, i see your point.... i mean .... i could be a really good benevolent dictator for life 😌

i mean there have been benevolent dictators throughout history

most of the time it wasent so hard because your neighber was a dick to so really rulers were more assholes to everyone but their own people

Hoppe talks about how monarchies were better off than democracies because they had more of an incentive to keep a stable economy and not plunder it ASAP like temporary politicans do

in a monarchy the head of state has full power and full responcibility, in a democracy everyone has responcibility and some power when things go according to plan

was talking with missdanger about this too

things dont go according to plan a lot in a democracy

ya much too volatile of a climate.... much to easy to screw up a delicate economic ecosystem

personally id like to try a better democracy before i rule it out but i cant help but think that monarchys are tried and true. though i wonder if they can even work now or if were just all doomed anyway

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhKKzmsUEAAts3I.jpg:large

thats another thing with democracy, you can set up a good one and yet it has its own tools to make it worse and the people think its eachothers fault

in a monarchy everyone knows who's fault it is

right and even in a democracy.. people can vote away the democracy!

so kind of self-defeating potentially

ppl can just vote in a brutal socialist dictatorship

or national socialist dictatorship as was the case of hitler

i actually like some socialist ideas, but obviously im not a socialist, i think without a economic heirarchy theres no way to have a successful society or economy for that matter

ya hierarchy is natural.... even when you think about it from a self-owner ship perspective

my socialist ideas usually try to favor the working class when it can avoid that unionist bullshit you sometimes get and the other ideas tend to just try to get bussiness to be more withholden to their employees

usually also trying to get employees invested in the bussiness

theres just no way to have a non-hierarchical society IMO ..... bcus say in the communist vision... theres always goign to be a certain CLASS of people who are going to go around enforcing THEIR systems onto others

well yeah its human nature, even if you managed to get enough people who legitamently want to have a anarchic nation, nothing stops the outsiders from coming in and taking that away from you

ya thats all well and okay by me.... theres plenty of ways to voluntarily level the playing field and help close the gap in disparities

ya, there will always be external statist forces trying to infiltrate and subvert this system, for sure

theres a really good 3-part documentary interview that i bet youd like a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNkDiBOO4H0&list=PLmmQ8peduhsorsovh6EjmEQEIPNkUVdUs

i think people get a bit to worried when its suggested that maybe there is a limit to how much a person can grow in an economy, to think that maybe there should be limitations to the heirarchy to prevent to much power going to one person even if its just money, because eventually money is power