Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-07-07 06:08:44 UTC  

not to be confused with globalization (like the internet phenomenon, other natural market phenomena, etc)

2018-07-07 06:10:21 UTC  

ah, i see what you mean about the super international corporations not necessarily caring as much about national regulations, yeah i agree

2018-07-07 06:10:37 UTC  

cus if it gets too regulated, they can just up and move out

2018-07-07 06:11:02 UTC  

which is still a capital/value loss for that nation, not to mention brain-drain

2018-07-07 06:12:06 UTC  

why we still need low regulations to entice them to come and set up shop 😉 and thus their wealth also spreads among the national communities in which they operate too.... its a win-win situation

2018-07-07 06:13:02 UTC  

i think a corporation could potentially have so much domination within a country that you cant actually win against them

2018-07-07 06:14:01 UTC  

an international one, it has no reason to care about your people beyond money, it can play hokepoki with you until your economy collapses for all it cares

2018-07-07 06:14:09 UTC  

not if there isnt cronyism going on between them and the gov tho.... bcuz the one tool that th gov has (and that is claims to use legitimately) is the barrel of a gun, governments can tax its people

2018-07-07 06:14:53 UTC  

so yeah, thatd definitely be a threat once fascism starts to grow in the form of state/corporate powers merging

2018-07-07 06:15:19 UTC  

eh fascism doesent work with international corporations

2018-07-07 06:15:27 UTC  

that is fascism after all, the merging of state/corporate power ... its quasi-private/public

2018-07-07 06:15:41 UTC  

i understand how fascism works

2018-07-07 06:15:52 UTC  

one leg in both worlds .... quite the formidable leviathon could grow out of that

2018-07-07 06:16:27 UTC  

you know for most of human history we were fascist

2018-07-07 06:16:55 UTC  

well that is w hat theyre are trying to set up , an unelected world-government based on corporate fascism

2018-07-07 06:17:16 UTC  

nah fascism doesent work with international

2018-07-07 06:17:34 UTC  

sure, i agree with that that ... its all over in symbolism in the House of Reps, and presidents statues, etc

2018-07-07 06:17:38 UTC  

it wouldent really be fascism at that point, similar but not exactly

2018-07-07 06:18:08 UTC  

Lincoln resting is arms on the fascio bundle of rods..... Washington statue with bundle of rods under his cloak

2018-07-07 06:18:37 UTC  

straight up fascio bundle of rods complete with axe plastered on the House of Representives wall .... all in plain sight

2018-07-07 06:18:50 UTC  

well when i say for most of our human history weve been fascist i mean, for most of human history those who own the land which the grain is grown on are also those who rule

2018-07-07 06:19:16 UTC  

yeah, basically its technocracy

2018-07-07 06:20:12 UTC  

i dont inherently think its a bad thing, though if an international entity that has no holdings to the native people of a nation is the one who owns the land and rules the people then i think that can be a VERY bad thing

2018-07-07 06:20:21 UTC  

ya, feudalism and the roman empire, etc... sure has been the "default" way of governing for more of human history for sure

2018-07-07 06:21:25 UTC  

ya, i see your point.... i mean .... i could be a really good benevolent dictator for life 😌

2018-07-07 06:21:47 UTC  

i mean there have been benevolent dictators throughout history

2018-07-07 06:22:21 UTC  

most of the time it wasent so hard because your neighber was a dick to so really rulers were more assholes to everyone but their own people

2018-07-07 06:22:59 UTC  

Hoppe talks about how monarchies were better off than democracies because they had more of an incentive to keep a stable economy and not plunder it ASAP like temporary politicans do

2018-07-07 06:24:04 UTC  

in a monarchy the head of state has full power and full responcibility, in a democracy everyone has responcibility and some power when things go according to plan

2018-07-07 06:24:29 UTC  

was talking with missdanger about this too

2018-07-07 06:24:30 UTC  

things dont go according to plan a lot in a democracy

2018-07-07 06:25:22 UTC  

ya much too volatile of a climate.... much to easy to screw up a delicate economic ecosystem

2018-07-07 06:25:33 UTC  

personally id like to try a better democracy before i rule it out but i cant help but think that monarchys are tried and true. though i wonder if they can even work now or if were just all doomed anyway

2018-07-07 06:26:25 UTC  

thats another thing with democracy, you can set up a good one and yet it has its own tools to make it worse and the people think its eachothers fault

2018-07-07 06:26:38 UTC  

in a monarchy everyone knows who's fault it is

2018-07-07 06:27:07 UTC  

right and even in a democracy.. people can vote away the democracy!

2018-07-07 06:27:15 UTC  

so kind of self-defeating potentially

2018-07-07 06:27:33 UTC  

ppl can just vote in a brutal socialist dictatorship

2018-07-07 06:27:48 UTC  

or national socialist dictatorship as was the case of hitler

2018-07-07 06:28:24 UTC  

i actually like some socialist ideas, but obviously im not a socialist, i think without a economic heirarchy theres no way to have a successful society or economy for that matter