Message from @Dr.Wol
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But then vegetables aren't human(or aren't deserving of rights if that's what you mean)
that AND some common sense.... like AIs and stuff.... purely cybernetics, etc.. clearly not human (common sense)
Yeah, but similarity is just a measurement of difference where you look for smaller amounts of difference
Humans are quite similar to many animals
yes, but it narrows it down considerably
you start from the opposite end basically
true
like i said, its more about a highly evolved state of sentience (spiritual, philosophical, etc)
but either way you put it there's no clear line in how similar you have to be to still be considered a human
less about genetics per se
i'd say to the point that any sample of you can be recognised as human
say you're given a cell, and they check its chromosome count/genome etc
I mean, a dead person, is still the corpse of a human
His state of life (thus lack of sentience) doesn't discount his humanity
but evolution is often a very slow change, and what's seen as anatomically modern human today may vary from those 300 years from now
thats a way of measuring/quantifying one way out of many potential ways outside of biology
well you don't compare with humans of old, you compare to the current average human
its like uhm
We used to be the same primates as modern monkeys
But they aren't human, even though the same generation 100,000 years ago for example would be the same being
We didn't evolve from monkeys
we share a genetic ancestor with them
we used to be the same primates
the elite have a fantasy of splitting us down different evolutionary paths gradually with all the "soft" eugenics going on indirectly and directly
and modern monkeys used to be that same one
the elite aren't smart enough for that
like straight up Eloi/Morlocks from the Time Machine status .... more or less LOL
I wish, then atleast they'd have a plan
That's part of why I think it's not a good idea to create concrete definitions of what is human and what is not. Dehumanization is a very dangerous thing.
Also I think it's just not really possible to do with the way biology works
can an AI be human?
Depends on whether you're defining humanity by body/mind/spirit
"not a good idea to create concrete definitions" you dont think that ABSOLUTELY though right?
cuz i mean.... i love eating avocados
Personally I'd say no, but if they are of human intelligence then I'd say they deserve to be treated as humans
yes you treat them as equals, but you don't consider them human, so you do have a definition of what defines a human
Well yeah I'd be willing to say something isn't a human, but to make an exact definition of 'this is a human anything that differs is not human' is where I think it gets fuzzy and dangerous
i would say no to AI .... just like why corporations arent people ....... they would be "super" humans of a literall different physical class of humans/people
humans arent immortal
a dog isnt human, an ant isnt human
Human is a type of species
@Schedrevka yeah, i agree with all that too