so i can live in your yard?
That statement implies that you already have an agreement with me beforehand.
Which means i define what is your land
Because without my agreement, you don't really have private property, nor do I
Then the Goverment can decide what land they can define. It's a slippery slope.
And then they can use Eniment Domain to destroy your property to build a wall.
Who are "they"
Government is made up of people.
They == State or Federal Goverment entities.
It's people who come and take your land
The government does not exist as some faceless, nameless entity.
It's a group of people society gives power to.
Ask those pople who have no more land in some of the Border States that question.
Tell me, how does the government take your land without people?
Without an armed force, how do they have power?
They don't. And that is what I want limited. Limited Goverment power.
But this has diverged from the original point. If I don't follow our agreement, who enacts punishment?
A 3rd party voluntarily arbirter.
If you leave your house, who kicks me out if I move in?
I do as I will be defendin my property.
No, at that point you are taking my property
I have physical control over it
So, I will kick you out as I made that claim beforehand.
So you are defining my property?
Yes, as you defined mine.
Then we are in agreement, I define your property. And the reverse is true
In other words, our property is defined by those around us
But not by us
Our property is the whole world until someone stops us from claiming it.
Who defines property as "ours?"
the social contract we have in in a society that enforces that right through force
Our as in yours or mine.
The whole world is mine until you stop me. And the whole world is yours until I stop you.
This eventually means that the person who defines property is the one who is the strongest
Everyone else subject to their will. Or team up.
But what happens when people team up against you?
What makes this any different than government defining what my property is?
You can't have a stateless government and private property because the whoever ends up being the strongest becomes the new "government", or whoever teams up and gets the most support
Defending private property is one of the core reasons governments exist. Who's property depends on the government.
This is where I think you @Grenade123 are missing one point, and @i3utm is failing to put into perspective properly. I am not trying to being rude. just an observation, if I misunderstood something or potentially missed an important point. let me know. There is this concept called the Non Aggression Principle (NAP) What this means is that one person is not to violate someone else's agency via violce. The implication of a stateless society, from my understanding, is in order for this to work, society as a whole must abide by the NAP. Should there be an issue where one person is trying to claim land, that another person owns or is claiming to own, then a third party, mutually agreed upon by the arguing parties will come in and settle the dispute. But should this be a case where it is some jack-waggon coming to just steal your stuff, then a person must have the right to defend themselves and their property via some sort of weapon, which I would assume to be some sort of Gun.