Message from @Dennafen

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2018-07-26 17:58:03 UTC  

Why is this not the same?

2018-07-26 17:58:16 UTC  

Watch the video?

2018-07-26 17:58:23 UTC  

It addresses that point.

2018-07-26 17:58:33 UTC  

I got a hunch I've heard it before.

2018-07-26 17:58:51 UTC  

And I don't have time to sit through a 15 minute CCP Grey video.

2018-07-26 17:59:00 UTC  

GCP

2018-07-26 17:59:09 UTC  

whatever.

2018-07-26 17:59:23 UTC  

If the argument is that this time their coming for the white collar jobs.

2018-07-26 17:59:39 UTC  

The Luddites were upset that automation was coming for farming and skilled manufacturing.

2018-07-26 18:00:07 UTC  

Okay fine, name a job that can't be automated.

2018-07-26 18:00:09 UTC  

They were sorta right. Not as many people farm any more and we don't line up 100s of people in a workshop to make firearms one-by-one anymore.

2018-07-26 18:00:17 UTC  

What's the job that we're moving people into.

2018-07-26 18:00:18 UTC  

But farming and skilled manufacturing is still around.

2018-07-26 18:00:32 UTC  

Arts for one.

2018-07-26 18:00:44 UTC  

I'm getting slowmo'd.

2018-07-26 18:00:58 UTC  

Hollywood is making more money than before.

2018-07-26 18:01:17 UTC  

Art is an attention based economy, you can't just retrain people to be an artists.

2018-07-26 18:01:26 UTC  

What?

2018-07-26 18:01:34 UTC  

No, you just do what you want.

2018-07-26 18:01:48 UTC  

Sure, attention is limited, but that's everything in this world.

2018-07-26 18:02:03 UTC  

How are they going to make money?

2018-07-26 18:02:20 UTC  

Making stuff people care about.

2018-07-26 18:02:48 UTC  

For who, other artists?

2018-07-26 18:02:56 UTC  

Whomever cares to watch it.

2018-07-26 18:03:05 UTC  

You're not replacing all engineers and surveyors.

2018-07-26 18:03:15 UTC  

There's too many factors to just toss an AI at it.

2018-07-26 18:03:29 UTC  

Surveyors probably, engineers maybe.

2018-07-26 18:03:36 UTC  

Depends on the engineering.

2018-07-26 18:03:58 UTC  

AI is good at eliminating the boring stuff that doesn't really require too much complexity. Like watching watching security tapes.

2018-07-26 18:04:16 UTC  

No, surveying is a task which requires a good deal of logistics and care in setting up your instruments.

2018-07-26 18:04:37 UTC  

Yeah, writing news stories, and making music, and improving algorithms.

2018-07-26 18:04:54 UTC  

And there's fundamental limits which make eliminating engineering basically impossible.

2018-07-26 18:05:05 UTC  

AI sucks at facial recognition

2018-07-26 18:05:06 UTC  

Facebook, Google, Youttube already trust mot of the engineering work to automation.

2018-07-26 18:05:14 UTC  

You can automate the calculations and some idea generation, but there's hard limits on how far you can take that.

2018-07-26 18:05:29 UTC  

define "most of the engineering work" Last I heard they were still hiring coders.

2018-07-26 18:05:43 UTC  

they have to, with millions of minutes of youtube content being uploaded every day, thats undoable for a normal person

2018-07-26 18:05:46 UTC  

Okay, like .01% worlds jobs are safe, GG guys

2018-07-26 18:06:06 UTC  

No, this whole "AI is going to put everyone out of work" is badly overhyped.

2018-07-26 18:06:22 UTC  

And reflects a lack of creativity and understanding of fundamental limits.

2018-07-26 18:06:33 UTC  

They are putting people out of jobs, not ARE putting people out of jobs.