Message from @Dennafen

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2018-07-26 18:05:06 UTC  

Facebook, Google, Youttube already trust mot of the engineering work to automation.

2018-07-26 18:05:14 UTC  

You can automate the calculations and some idea generation, but there's hard limits on how far you can take that.

2018-07-26 18:05:29 UTC  

define "most of the engineering work" Last I heard they were still hiring coders.

2018-07-26 18:05:43 UTC  

they have to, with millions of minutes of youtube content being uploaded every day, thats undoable for a normal person

2018-07-26 18:05:46 UTC  

Okay, like .01% worlds jobs are safe, GG guys

2018-07-26 18:06:06 UTC  

No, this whole "AI is going to put everyone out of work" is badly overhyped.

2018-07-26 18:06:22 UTC  

And reflects a lack of creativity and understanding of fundamental limits.

2018-07-26 18:06:33 UTC  

They are putting people out of jobs, not ARE putting people out of jobs.

2018-07-26 18:06:45 UTC  

nah people get the limits, they just dont know we're not close to achieving the desired outcome 😉

2018-07-26 18:06:47 UTC  

Like, AI is already in a position where it will likely be dominated by a few major players just because they have all the data

2018-07-26 18:07:26 UTC  

And with stuff like GDPR...

2018-07-26 18:07:28 UTC  

Can your brain functions be replicated by a computer?

2018-07-26 18:07:36 UTC  

That's a hard question to answer.

2018-07-26 18:07:47 UTC  

And I'm not sure it actually matters at the end of the day.

2018-07-26 18:07:54 UTC  

It does.

2018-07-26 18:08:08 UTC  

Since you don't need a full brain to do that many tasks.

2018-07-26 18:08:30 UTC  

That's the question, is there something magical about being human that makes us irreplaceable by a robot brain.

2018-07-26 18:08:41 UTC  

we dont know how, but its possible

2018-07-26 18:09:01 UTC  

Now we're just debating metaphysics.

2018-07-26 18:09:06 UTC  

nah

2018-07-26 18:09:10 UTC  

No we're not.

2018-07-26 18:09:40 UTC  

its possible, but compare it to like:

"Can we live on any planet?"

Sure, just gotta learn to terraform

2018-07-26 18:09:56 UTC  

And terraforming takes hundreds of years.

2018-07-26 18:10:00 UTC  

exactly

2018-07-26 18:10:09 UTC  

is it possible? yes
Can we do it now? Fuck no

2018-07-26 18:10:21 UTC  

One thing I would point out with this AI stuff.

2018-07-26 18:10:29 UTC  

You saying that AI will NEVER replace X job is the same thing as people who said they'll never flay, they'll never break the sound barrier, they'll never split the atom, and so on.

2018-07-26 18:10:41 UTC  

It doesn't entirely matter. If AI starts becoming sufficiently powerful, we'll integrate it into ourselves.

2018-07-26 18:10:49 UTC  

And then it's a completely different distinction.

2018-07-26 18:11:03 UTC  

Now that's just fallacious.

2018-07-26 18:11:14 UTC  

There's been lots of stuff people have said would happen that never did.

2018-07-26 18:11:23 UTC  

Like what?

2018-07-26 18:11:31 UTC  

Look at old sci-fi. People wonder over all the stuff they got right but forget all the stuff they got wrong.

2018-07-26 18:11:35 UTC  

we'd have a moonbase by 1980

2018-07-26 18:11:46 UTC  

We could.

2018-07-26 18:12:06 UTC  

We just did have a economic motive to do it

2018-07-26 18:12:18 UTC  

Didn't have one that is.

2018-07-26 18:12:26 UTC  

Humans are not horses, is the main issue with the argument against market solving the problem

2018-07-26 18:12:44 UTC  

It's a gross oversimplification of the issue

2018-07-26 18:13:01 UTC  

I'd argue there's an even deeper issue. Everyone gets this strong AI/human distinction. But it doesn't exist.

2018-07-26 18:13:04 UTC  

Who said anything about it not be an optimal state?