Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-09-12 23:00:39 UTC  

You can buy other currencies with your own currency.

2018-09-12 23:01:10 UTC  

And the values of those commodities you're exchanging is generally analyzed and agreed upon.

2018-09-12 23:01:17 UTC  

Crypto is largely the same way.

2018-09-12 23:01:55 UTC  

Supply and Demand dictate economics.

2018-09-12 23:02:13 UTC  

Not anything else. not government, even.

2018-09-12 23:02:25 UTC  

Although government has the strings it can pull to manipulate it

2018-09-12 23:02:57 UTC  

If some nation-ending apocalyptic event were to occur tomorrow, like Hillary replacing Trump or something...

2018-09-12 23:03:18 UTC  

There would still be people who would accept USD. It would still have a certain value.

2018-09-12 23:03:44 UTC  

Almost inexplicably

2018-09-12 23:04:13 UTC  

But the core reason is, common currency is a proxy for goods in barter.

2018-09-12 23:04:59 UTC  

I work some on-demand jobs.

2018-09-12 23:05:18 UTC  

If I get a drive for a 30 dollar fare

2018-09-12 23:05:51 UTC  

load it on to my card, and buy 20 dollars of gas with it

2018-09-12 23:06:11 UTC  

Thinking of it as spending money is a basic way of looking at it.

2018-09-12 23:07:16 UTC  

I'm actually spending some fraction of a function of my car's fuel used for the fare, the wear and tear on the car, with the additional factor of my time to refuel that car.

2018-09-12 23:07:43 UTC  

And that is what I'm trading to that gas station for fuel.

2018-09-12 23:08:04 UTC  

Money's just the proxy for that.

2018-09-12 23:08:50 UTC  

When you're taxed, the IRS is taking a percentage of time from you, not money.

2018-09-12 23:12:03 UTC  

I had a really well paid job once and we would work sundays for the tax man. Why sundays? Coz my time was worth more. Your system seems predicated on an isolated system, were one days work is equal to anothers. That is not the case.

2018-09-12 23:12:34 UTC  

In my on-demand job

2018-09-12 23:12:43 UTC  

One fare might be worth more or less than another

2018-09-12 23:13:56 UTC  

If you're working on a Sunday where someone else might not, that is a supply/demand difference.

2018-09-12 23:14:37 UTC  

Frankly, either your work on Sunday was valued more due to a decreased supply or increased demand

2018-09-12 23:15:14 UTC  

Or your boss wasn't really thinking things through and just arbitrarily valued Sundays differently, which is perfectly acceptable within that model.

2018-09-12 23:16:00 UTC  

The key factor is that you agreed at any given point that your time and labor were worth that amount at that time.

2018-09-12 23:16:03 UTC  

hang on I think I've got you

2018-09-12 23:16:58 UTC  

When people start to horde their money the supply of money goes down. the value of the remaining money goes up.

2018-09-12 23:17:43 UTC  

people start to notice this and start to horde money knowing that tomorrow their money will be worth more.

2018-09-12 23:18:26 UTC  

Right, that's how the argument generally goes...

2018-09-12 23:18:30 UTC  

It was said earlier that that would just increase the price of goods coz labour would cost more.

2018-09-12 23:18:43 UTC  

I suppose I can see *sort of* a point on the other side of things now

2018-09-12 23:19:07 UTC  

In that having a currency with an unstable value makes things kind of wonky.

2018-09-12 23:19:40 UTC  

What if you are in the business of baking bread? You pay the boy to help[ you bake X loafs of bread but no one wants to by them coz they can buy two for the same money tomorrow.

2018-09-12 23:20:01 UTC  

You have already put in the investment.#

2018-09-12 23:20:25 UTC  

But your bread is organic and goes down in value as it ages

2018-09-12 23:20:35 UTC  

it doesn't keep.

2018-09-12 23:20:56 UTC  

We're talking about needs, here.

2018-09-12 23:21:04 UTC  

To make money your business is predicated on quick turn over

2018-09-12 23:21:14 UTC  

And if you had a currency that fluctuated THAT wildly, you've done something wrong. 😛

2018-09-12 23:21:33 UTC  

The time scale doesn't matter.

2018-09-12 23:21:48 UTC  

it's the pricaple of things losing value over time.