Message from @samoja

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2018-10-11 06:41:24 UTC  

still didn't hear any explanation how fascism is gonna solve a single problem of all the ones you mentioned, constantly referring to past when everything was absolutely different isn't an argument, even if it was, you would still need to prove that it would work anywhere outside germany and it's particular conditions back in 1930ish

2018-10-11 06:41:35 UTC  

not gonna hold my breath

2018-10-11 06:41:54 UTC  

no they were slaves to international banking system before the war.
and replaced that with their own one. and it worked like really well.

2018-10-11 06:42:22 UTC  

You mean Berlin's hyperinflation.

2018-10-11 06:43:15 UTC  

So they replaced symbolic slavery with actual slavery, in the mean time SS and Gestapo roamed the streets and beat up/arrested/killed anyone who dared to make a peep against the government, no thanks

2018-10-11 06:43:29 UTC  

hyper inflation was because germany had to pay over three times of its own value in war reparations.

2018-10-11 06:43:31 UTC  

Liberty best.

2018-10-11 06:43:54 UTC  

No, it was because idiots in the government started printing money

2018-10-11 06:44:49 UTC  

@samoja do you know how money and banking works?

2018-10-11 06:45:06 UTC  

apparently more than you do

2018-10-11 06:45:22 UTC  

The problem with authoritarianism is that the leaders become detached from the needs of their people and lose sight.

2018-10-11 06:45:25 UTC  

They thought they wopuld devalue the currency so much that the money they owed would be minuscule, too bad they did not realize for some fucking reason that the money they owed was to be paid in gold

2018-10-11 06:45:35 UTC  
2018-10-11 06:46:01 UTC  

this gives you good run down how money and banking works

2018-10-11 06:46:44 UTC  

Banking is basically a ponzi scheme.

2018-10-11 06:46:59 UTC  

I know all that

2018-10-11 06:47:11 UTC  

but back then it was still backed by gold

2018-10-11 06:47:40 UTC  

which means that Germany had exactly as much money as it had gold

2018-10-11 06:48:03 UTC  

no matter the number of papers they printed

2018-10-11 06:48:26 UTC  

and they had to pay over two times of value of whole germany in war reparations from WW1

2018-10-11 06:48:41 UTC  

That was their own damn fault

2018-10-11 06:49:25 UTC  

then they replaced that system with their own money system.
And that worked like wonders. because they werent slaves for international banking system anymore.

2018-10-11 06:51:54 UTC  

You are delusional, they printed money until it was basically worthless, and then they just pulled it back and issued a new currency, and the whole thing could start again, it's an age old trick, just erase a few hundred zeros, it solved nothing, people still lost everything in the inflation bubble, but now they could carry what little money they owned in their pocket instead of a garbage bag

2018-10-11 06:55:21 UTC  

yes. they were under international banking system and in depth over two times value of whole germany. thats what caused inflation and made currency worthless.

then they replaced it with their own system, and no longer were slaves for international banks.

2018-10-11 06:55:49 UTC  

"international banking system" *BUZZ*

2018-10-11 06:57:15 UTC  

So you just repeated your previous points that i already refuted? If you don't have a new argument why bother typing at all, i was unconvinced the first time, why do you think you will convince me the second time?

2018-10-11 06:57:52 UTC  

If they hadn't started WWI they wouldn't have been in debt in the first place. The Kaizer was a nutter with a boner for the military.

2018-10-11 06:58:28 UTC  

germans didint start WW1....

2018-10-11 06:59:21 UTC  

Actually it was the military that was pushing for the war, the war i might add they had no bussiness getting involved in, the issue was between Austria and Serbia

2018-10-11 06:59:29 UTC  

Yeah

2018-10-11 06:59:49 UTC  

The war kicked off when a Serb killed Franz Ferdinand.

2018-10-11 07:01:37 UTC  

And then they foolishly shoot themselves in the foot not once but twice, first when they invaded Belgium, dragging GB into the war against them, and then when they started sinking international ships dragging US into the war, in both cases they wanted a quick fix and failed miserably

2018-10-11 07:07:47 UTC  

Murder of Franz Ferdinand was what kicked the whole thing off, but then Austria(under german influence, b ecause Germany was in fact just waiting for the excuse to go to war) posed wholly unreasonable set of demands to Serbia, that basically demanded Austrian police be given full jusristiction on Serbian territory. Serbia refused, obviously, but they proposed the compromise, they would fulfill all the other demands posed by Austria sans letting Austrian police have juristiction in Serbia (which basically means Serbia gave over their authonomy). Austria refused and declared war.

2018-10-11 07:09:27 UTC  

Yeah, Germany was basically just itching for a fight.

2018-10-11 07:10:07 UTC  

it wasnt just germany. whole europe wanted to fight each other.

2018-10-11 07:11:47 UTC  

Not quite.

2018-10-11 07:12:12 UTC  

A lot of these countries actually had mutual defence agreements, Russia and Serbia, France and Russia, France and Britain, Britain and Japan, etc.

2018-10-11 07:12:32 UTC  

They were bound to assist each other.

2018-10-11 07:13:41 UTC  

yeah. but they still wanted to go war.
apparenly colonizing rest of the world wasnt enought.

2018-10-11 07:15:10 UTC  

@samoja also i tried to explain in different way because you dont seem to undestand its not about that paper money it self. but about who controls money supply.