Message from @xmrsmoothx

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2018-10-29 17:43:58 UTC  

Context matters I agree with that

2018-10-29 17:44:00 UTC  

The issue is that it's not a case of "this is a platform that supports nazis", that's more a smear. I hate nazis too, they're fucking appalling. But if we attack and oppress them they'll twist to think they're right, that there's a Jew-run far-left establishment wanting to hunt them down, and they'll get more secure in their views

2018-10-29 17:44:10 UTC  

When I meant Nazi I meant identifying as one

2018-10-29 17:44:37 UTC  

@Vigil that's a load of crap, oppressing nazis works

2018-10-29 17:44:40 UTC  

It's more an issue of "Should a business be responsible for its users' actions" and "Should we ban freedom of speech and override a private entity's rights to self-govern"

2018-10-29 17:44:57 UTC  

Oppressing *anyone* doesn't work, any oppressed group wants to rebel

2018-10-29 17:45:13 UTC  

We can detain them and give them a second chance

2018-10-29 17:45:17 UTC  

lmao, did you miss the part where the allies oppressed the shit out of nazis to win the war? they have to be fought

2018-10-29 17:45:24 UTC  

That's war

2018-10-29 17:45:30 UTC  

This is an individual

2018-10-29 17:45:42 UTC  

Well yes, that's a case of a fascist genocidal invasion of mainland Europe

2018-10-29 17:45:43 UTC  

war contains individuals fighting for certain ideas

2018-10-29 17:46:01 UTC  

Ideologies will never ceases to exist

2018-10-29 17:46:05 UTC  

the goal of war is to oppress the individuals of the opposing ideal

2018-10-29 17:46:07 UTC  

We must always be vigilant

2018-10-29 17:46:19 UTC  

You can't opress someone to not think of it

2018-10-29 17:46:32 UTC  

Why neo-nazis exist today?

2018-10-29 17:46:40 UTC  

because nobody's fighting them lol

2018-10-29 17:46:49 UTC  

There will always be nazis

2018-10-29 17:47:03 UTC  

You can't defeat an ideology

2018-10-29 17:47:08 UTC  

in general, maybe? but probably a pretty small amount depending on the society

2018-10-29 17:47:09 UTC  

It will always exist

2018-10-29 17:47:28 UTC  

Yes that's why there a few Nazis in this day and age

2018-10-29 17:47:35 UTC  

>few

2018-10-29 17:47:42 UTC  

>fascists elected all over europe and the americas

2018-10-29 17:48:18 UTC  

Not Nazis but yeah the Brazil election is stupid

2018-10-29 17:48:34 UTC  

fascism is a natural endpoint of liberal society, but in a different society I doubt there would be as much of it

2018-10-29 17:48:40 UTC  

But the people of Brazil generally fed with the violence

2018-10-29 17:48:50 UTC  

The left didn't help so they went for the right

2018-10-29 17:49:10 UTC  

Most of them didn't even care if bolsanaro said horrible stuff

2018-10-29 17:49:26 UTC  

He said he will be hard on corruption

2018-10-29 17:49:33 UTC  

not so much that the left didn't help, more that the fascists appeal more directly to their simplistic ideas about the world

2018-10-29 17:49:35 UTC  

People want a strong leader in times of chaos

2018-10-29 17:49:46 UTC  

exactly, in a society with less chaos, fascism would be less likely

2018-10-29 17:49:55 UTC  

True

2018-10-29 17:50:28 UTC  

thus I think it's possible to have a society in which fascists are very rare, so much as to be not a problem

2018-10-29 17:50:37 UTC  

If one extreme rises another extreme will rise to counter it

2018-10-29 17:50:56 UTC  

That's why we have occasia Cortez in the limelight and the SJW's

2018-10-29 17:51:02 UTC  

🤔

2018-10-29 17:51:08 UTC  

do you think cortez is somehow extreme?

2018-10-29 17:51:14 UTC  

define "SJW"?