Message from @xmrsmoothx

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2018-10-29 17:48:50 UTC  

The left didn't help so they went for the right

2018-10-29 17:49:10 UTC  

Most of them didn't even care if bolsanaro said horrible stuff

2018-10-29 17:49:26 UTC  

He said he will be hard on corruption

2018-10-29 17:49:33 UTC  

not so much that the left didn't help, more that the fascists appeal more directly to their simplistic ideas about the world

2018-10-29 17:49:35 UTC  

People want a strong leader in times of chaos

2018-10-29 17:49:46 UTC  

exactly, in a society with less chaos, fascism would be less likely

2018-10-29 17:49:55 UTC  

True

2018-10-29 17:50:28 UTC  

thus I think it's possible to have a society in which fascists are very rare, so much as to be not a problem

2018-10-29 17:50:37 UTC  

If one extreme rises another extreme will rise to counter it

2018-10-29 17:50:56 UTC  

That's why we have occasia Cortez in the limelight and the SJW's

2018-10-29 17:51:02 UTC  

🤔

2018-10-29 17:51:08 UTC  

do you think cortez is somehow extreme?

2018-10-29 17:51:14 UTC  

define "SJW"?

2018-10-29 17:51:17 UTC  

She is for open borders?

2018-10-29 17:52:02 UTC  

The always offended group

2018-10-29 17:52:45 UTC  

so, like... a pretty small group not at all comparable in size or power to modern fascists e.g. white nationalists in US and brasil

2018-10-29 17:53:04 UTC  

Small but a very vocal minority

2018-10-29 17:53:31 UTC  

anyways, can you give me a source on cortez' border policy?

2018-10-29 17:53:48 UTC  

Smooth, how many Americans do you think are fascists?

2018-10-29 17:53:52 UTC  

can't find a page on exactly what she thinks

2018-10-29 17:54:03 UTC  

@Bookworm define "fascists"

2018-10-29 17:54:48 UTC  

She hasn't outright spoken about this

2018-10-29 17:54:50 UTC  

Huh? You're using the word, what are you using it to mean?

2018-10-29 17:55:10 UTC  

But there are people who want it and it's growing

2018-10-29 17:55:12 UTC  

@Bookworm when I use fascist I generally mean by it "militant ethno-nationalist"

2018-10-29 17:55:21 UTC  

just want to know if we're on the same page

2018-10-29 17:55:45 UTC  

Are there any other definitions of the word?

2018-10-29 17:55:47 UTC  

@methdragon all I can see is her asking for no ICE, not necessarily open borders as such? I could be missing something

2018-10-29 17:56:40 UTC  

Okay. How many of those do you think are in America?

2018-10-29 17:56:42 UTC  

I see that too but I have read somewhere that people close to her says it's in her manifesto

2018-10-29 17:57:22 UTC  

@Bookworm based on the data I've seen about how US people see their country, their race, and their position on the world stage, a pretty big amount

2018-10-29 17:57:37 UTC  

I wouldn't speculate a specific number, but... like... a bunch?

2018-10-29 17:57:51 UTC  

She says she is for humane responsible immigration

2018-10-29 17:57:58 UTC  

So, a rough number, percentage?

2018-10-29 17:58:15 UTC  

If she is being humane she will have to let in millions

2018-10-29 17:58:20 UTC  

@methdragon "humane responsible immigration" sounds like a euphemism for "lots of immigration, but definitely not totally open borders"

2018-10-29 17:58:28 UTC  

Exactly

2018-10-29 17:58:44 UTC  

@Bookworm something around 30% I might say

2018-10-29 17:58:49 UTC  

Lol that's what I was going to type

2018-10-29 17:59:12 UTC  

possibly the largest cohesive block of political thought in the US