Message from @Kali Yuga

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2018-11-03 19:17:53 UTC  

maybe in few hundred years

2018-11-03 19:18:32 UTC  

I don't know much about it

2018-11-03 19:18:40 UTC  

I kinda assumed from the name of it

2018-11-03 19:18:59 UTC  

its not bad, unless you want a world where smartest person has under 200IQ to use it

2018-11-03 19:19:22 UTC  

Is it cutthroat capitalism?

2018-11-03 19:19:24 UTC  

brb, need afk

2018-11-03 19:19:37 UTC  

nope its not cutthroat capitalism

2018-11-03 19:25:48 UTC  

Just looked it up and I think I get the idea of it. It is like the inverse of anarcho-syndicalism where instead of the dissolution of the state for the sake of the worker it is for the sake of the consumer. While anarcho-syndicalism values solidarity anarcho-capitalism values individuality.

2018-11-03 19:31:40 UTC  

yes those are not full anarchies, full anarchy is in next millenia if we dont kill ourselves

2018-11-03 19:35:46 UTC  

I think such a system could only come into fruition if the innate nature of humans is changed from technological advancements. Because humans are innately neither fully individualistic or fully interdependent, and for either of those two systems to occur human nature would need to be modified to accommodate them.

2018-11-03 19:38:29 UTC  

For anarcho-capitalism to occur the individual person would need to become a fully independent creature in order for it to succeed. That means they would never *need* to have to interact with other humans. Technically speaking, a very capable person could be able to do this like you mentioned earlier, but even then it is not really preferable to living socially.

2018-11-03 19:38:36 UTC  

that is why i said, not yet

2018-11-03 19:38:52 UTC  

But is it desirable? For me it isn't.

2018-11-03 19:39:52 UTC  

I think moving either too close to full interdependency or full independency would be destructive to human nature as we know it.

2018-11-03 19:39:59 UTC  

it doesnt matter if it is desirable, it will happen as part of evolution

2018-11-03 19:40:17 UTC  

So you believe it be inevitable progression?

2018-11-03 19:40:26 UTC  

yes of course

2018-11-03 19:40:53 UTC  

its not too soon

2018-11-03 19:40:54 UTC  

An anarcho-syndicalist or socialist would say the same thing just at the other end of the spectrum.

2018-11-03 19:41:22 UTC  

Technological development would make us all completely interdependent rather than fully independent.

2018-11-03 19:42:09 UTC  

you look at it in a wrong way

2018-11-03 19:42:26 UTC  

some ideas are bad, some good, some for future and some for past

2018-11-03 19:42:42 UTC  

the issue is, if we kill this civilization we will begin from

2018-11-03 19:42:49 UTC  

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2018-11-03 19:43:05 UTC  

socialism is one of the ideas to reach other state of development

2018-11-03 19:43:17 UTC  

I think that is a Western-Centric viewpoint.

2018-11-03 19:43:17 UTC  

communism is anarchic systme

2018-11-03 19:43:45 UTC  

look at economic theories from problem solving point

2018-11-03 19:44:14 UTC  

They are similar but communism still believe in there being a state.

2018-11-03 19:44:22 UTC  

nope

2018-11-03 19:44:28 UTC  

you see

2018-11-03 19:45:10 UTC  

people like own shit turf so much any deviation from original idea gains new name, so communism split into communism with minimal state and anarcho-communism

2018-11-03 19:45:24 UTC  

which is dumb

2018-11-03 19:45:50 UTC  

because one is subset of another, an optional corollary and not a new completely different set of systems

2018-11-03 19:45:52 UTC  

Communism is a state ruled by the workers though, while Anarchism is the absolute abolishment of the state.

2018-11-03 19:46:14 UTC  

its same thing in its essence

2018-11-03 19:46:24 UTC  

It is, but still a distinction.

2018-11-03 19:46:29 UTC  

read onw statement its right there

2018-11-03 19:46:50 UTC  

onw statement?

2018-11-03 19:46:57 UTC  

its a distinction for those wish to gain name in history for "coming up" with "new ideas"

2018-11-03 19:47:03 UTC  

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