No. I think it'd have to happen over time as new cars replaced old.

That would give time for the infrastructure to be built. It'll take time for all the nuke plants and surge capacity and H2 generating plants.

But 9/11 was 17 years ago. Imagine if we'd started this conversion back then? We'd be well on our way to weaning ourselves off oil and, with European and Japanese cooperation doing the same thing, cutting off the fuel for Islamic terror - oil money.

If we'd left Saddam in power, we likely would never have seen ISIS

And therefore the Syrian Civil War and the newly activist Iran would have been avoided or blunted

Obama rather intentionally allowed ISIS to grow.

Oh? How so?

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Electric cars didn't take off til there was that oil crisis awhile back

ISIS was created by Obama's pullout from Iraq and neglect afterwards.

where gas was like 6 bucks a gallon at the cheapest

The economic breakeven gas price for electric cars is something like $10/gal.

Yes, but i thoguht this was about oil

We should never have been in Iraq to begin with other than enforcing no fly zones to keep Saddam hobbled.

wow, the message rate in this channel is limited

Middle Eastern politics isn't about the pure economics of oil.

HW should've deposed Saddam in 1991.

Obama did what he felt he was mandated to do by the 2008 elections in handling a mess that was handed to him

Obama used his mandate to make the mess 100x worse.

Obama was elected to get us out of Iraq

He learned that wasn't possible

If HW had done that in 1991 he would have lost the coalition that made what we were there for legal

There also was no planning for what to do with an occupied Iraq and the time

Wouldn't we have ended up with the same mess, just 12 years earlier?

The Shia/Sunni/Kurd mess would have erupted the same way unless we'd somehow decided to install another Sunni secularist strongman and propped him up like we did Saddam.

Whose interests are even served by maintaining Iraq as one nation when it is in fact 3?

The destruction of the Iraqi military during their retreat from Kuwait should have been completed, and that should've been the end of coalition use of force. No 'no fly zone'.

Westerners quailed at the visuals from "The Highway of Death" but **that's what victory looks like**

Just about every national border drawn in the Middle East and Africa during the 20th Century is fake, you know.

Coalition forces should not have been called off and the highway of death should've continued all the way to Baghdad or until there was nothing left to kill. Whatever comes first.

Once that was complete, we leave.

Western nations don't know how to win wars anymore.

Atkins, that would have handed Iraq to civil war and the mess we have now

That's essentially what we did in 2003

I don't care if Iraqis kill other Iraqis.

Iraq should've been partitioned in 2003.

So long as they keep their bullshit within their borders, I do not care what they do.

But it leaks over to Syria and we get ISIS which creates a breeding ground for terrorists that then get funded by Gulf dollars

When their bullshit leaves their borders, that's when we have to care.

I blame wahabism

That's why we need to stop obscene amounts of money flowing in to the region