Message from @DrYuriMom

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2018-11-20 20:50:11 UTC  

The EU is not going to just sever ties with them even if they do exit hard.

2018-11-20 20:50:20 UTC  

In a hard Brexit much of London's financial services will flee

2018-11-20 20:50:25 UTC  

They're still on good terms with NA and a sizeable chunk of the Commonwealth

2018-11-20 20:50:32 UTC  

Because attempting to sever ties with such an enormous market is going to put MORE pressure on other member states to leave the EU.

2018-11-20 20:51:09 UTC  

As i see it the only reason why EU is still putting up with Britain is over the Irish border

2018-11-20 20:51:12 UTC  

The reason why Germany is putting pressure on them is because the EU is probably screwed if they leave

2018-11-20 20:51:18 UTC  

Why should Italy, Spain, Poland, etc, all deny themselves the profit of trading with the UK, just to appease a bunch of drunken Belgian sots and Mutti Merkel?

2018-11-20 20:51:41 UTC  

Germany and France don't want to be the ones to pick up the cheque

2018-11-20 20:51:52 UTC  

They want that expense shared

2018-11-20 20:52:14 UTC  

But that's exactly what a hard brexit would force them into

2018-11-20 20:52:27 UTC  

The reason you have asshats like Verhofstadt having tantrums in the EU parliament is because they know how weak their position actually is.

2018-11-20 20:52:35 UTC  

^

2018-11-20 20:52:36 UTC  

Their dream of bloodless conquest is crumbling.

2018-11-20 20:53:08 UTC  

They get to be nobles lording over a collapsing ruin.

2018-11-20 20:54:14 UTC  

I'm curious why everyone would want to deny Europe a trading union when we reap the benefits of one every day in the US?

2018-11-20 20:54:15 UTC  

The reason they're pushing to hard and openly for an EU army, something that for years they swore up and down they'd never try, is because they know in a few years they're going to need it to keep their vassal states from rebelling.

2018-11-20 20:54:24 UTC  

EU is not a trade union

2018-11-20 20:54:28 UTC  

I don't want to deny the EU a trading union.

2018-11-20 20:54:36 UTC  

Um, that's exactly what it is

2018-11-20 20:54:41 UTC  

But the EU is not a mere trading union.

2018-11-20 20:54:47 UTC  

EEZ was the infant stage of the EU

2018-11-20 20:54:48 UTC  

It's a nascient superstate.

2018-11-20 20:55:00 UTC  

It's also a currency union, again like the US

2018-11-20 20:55:07 UTC  

Please.

2018-11-20 20:55:08 UTC  

The prior agreement they had was a trade union. The EU is a continental government looking to form a military

2018-11-20 20:55:27 UTC  

If it was merely a currency union and free trade zone they wouldn't need 1% of the regulations and laws they've put in place

2018-11-20 20:55:44 UTC  

They are looking for the security that comes from being a federation of some sort

2018-11-20 20:55:59 UTC  

They went about it in entirely the wrong way

2018-11-20 20:56:06 UTC  

And again, you wouldn't have Verhofstadt pounding the desk and screaming for member states to cede their sovereignty to the EU (i.e., him).

2018-11-20 20:56:46 UTC  

You wouldn't have the EU army. You wouldn't have Germany and Belgium trying to punish member states for enforcing their borders.

2018-11-20 20:56:51 UTC  

All the fanciful rantings on the internet aside, no one can seriously conceive of war between Texas and California. The idea is to make war between Germany and Poland just as ridiculous a concept.

2018-11-20 20:56:56 UTC  

None of this shit has anything to do with free trade or a shared currency.

2018-11-20 20:56:57 UTC  

Their federal branch is unelected, unaccountable and full of drunks and career powermongers, the states they have sway over have made incompatible economic decisions

2018-11-20 20:57:20 UTC  

It's making war between the two more likely actually.

2018-11-20 20:57:49 UTC  

Eastern Europe is getting fucking pissed

2018-11-20 20:58:30 UTC  

Because the EU is chiding them for gutting their independent judiciaries and muzzling their press?

2018-11-20 20:58:52 UTC  

Poland doesn't want Germany forcing migrants on them. Poland is sick and fucking tired of Germany and Belgium trying to dictate their internal affairs.

2018-11-20 20:59:06 UTC  

Because the EU was trying to pressure them into taking on migrants

2018-11-20 20:59:12 UTC  

But they signed on knowing their were rules to the club

2018-11-20 20:59:33 UTC  

I'll admit I'm not sure on the migrant part 😕