Message from @Cody

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2018-11-30 11:22:36 UTC  

ok. ?

2018-11-30 11:22:43 UTC  

In otherwords, a monopoly can own a monopoly if it buys out or competes normal and is the last one stsnding

2018-11-30 11:22:55 UTC  

Let's pretend that's true, there still must be competition or it's not a free market.

2018-11-30 11:23:01 UTC  

As long as no one other party got involved

2018-11-30 11:23:13 UTC  

Ie government

2018-11-30 11:23:22 UTC  

No

2018-11-30 11:23:31 UTC  

Your intentionally dodging the point

2018-11-30 11:23:54 UTC  

I think u r missing the point.

2018-11-30 11:23:55 UTC  

A monopoly may exist, but in an unrestricted system

2018-11-30 11:24:00 UTC  

If there is no competition, it's not a free market.

2018-11-30 11:24:03 UTC  

It wont exist forever

2018-11-30 11:26:29 UTC  

Anywho, pretty sure we are done. We can't even agree on the definition, so...no point going further 😃

2018-11-30 11:26:46 UTC  

I do agree with you though, most markets are not free.

2018-11-30 11:26:59 UTC  

Yeah

2018-11-30 11:27:15 UTC  

And my point this whole time is dont use "free market"

2018-11-30 11:27:24 UTC  

If you believe in regulation

2018-11-30 11:27:42 UTC  

Doesn't matter who you are regulating

2018-11-30 11:27:49 UTC  

I wouldn't call limited government power regulation, though, it's basically the opposite.

2018-11-30 11:28:04 UTC  

Regulation the government is The same as freeing the market.

2018-11-30 11:28:38 UTC  

Because the government itself is interference on the market.

2018-11-30 11:28:38 UTC  

But you then have to regulate the big guys to prevent them from individual bribing politicians

2018-11-30 11:28:57 UTC  

Nope, imagine no government. Who do you bribe?

2018-11-30 11:29:11 UTC  

See, a free market would have unrestricted donations to politicians

2018-11-30 11:29:27 UTC  

Which part of the market is the government?

2018-11-30 11:29:35 UTC  

Because that pertains of 2 individuals doing things

2018-11-30 11:30:18 UTC  

So if you think we should limit the amount each person could donate, then you do not believe in the free market

2018-11-30 11:30:33 UTC  

Also lobbying is a private business

2018-11-30 11:30:45 UTC  

I'm curious, though, which part of the market government is. Is it the supply? Is it the demand?

2018-11-30 11:30:46 UTC  

You would be regulating lobbying firms

2018-11-30 11:31:19 UTC  

They are the regulators

2018-11-30 11:31:24 UTC  

When you bribe a politician, what are you bribing them to do?

2018-11-30 11:31:37 UTC  

Regulate

2018-11-30 11:31:47 UTC  

you mean interfere?

2018-11-30 11:32:01 UTC  

The bribe politicians to regulate

2018-11-30 11:32:10 UTC  

Yourself?

2018-11-30 11:32:12 UTC  

So in a completely free market

2018-11-30 11:32:26 UTC  

You eventually see regulations everytime

2018-11-30 11:32:48 UTC  

But the government isn't a part of a "completely free market".

2018-11-30 11:33:11 UTC  

If you do not regulate one of the 3 I mentioned before, you will see corruption everytime

2018-11-30 11:33:22 UTC  

And once you regulate 1 of the 3

2018-11-30 11:33:29 UTC  

Corruption cannot exist, if government doesn't exist. By definition.