Message from @trapexit

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2018-12-29 17:19:05 UTC  

IMHO, the moneylenders look like they're weighing in on the culture war

2018-12-29 18:17:42 UTC  

I've been watching everyone post and listening intently to Tim and even Styx the past two weeks. As I see it, the hyper-polarized west is a losing proposition for companies that have any control over who they partner with. There are many who will not do business with people who partner with those who hold views they see as abhorrent. On the other hand, there are those who won't do business with those who restrict speech to "mainstream" sensibilities.

2018-12-29 18:24:17 UTC  

That vid by Tim yesterday about efforts to maintain a seemly discourse on Twitch left me really thinking about my own actions. There are games I don't play simply because I don't like the comments I have to read or the behaviors I see. I have better things to do with my time than deal with mean people. I know many others who are turned off by the meanness endemic in many online games or gaming venues. The general dickery limits the audience and the growth potential of games. But when the companies try to police speech, they get whacked by their core players. So companies are given a lose-lose choice of either letting the toxic environment continue and limiting their market to a core group of people who like it, or restrict speech so they can appeal to broader audiences but get hit by the ire of their core players. Whether a company "gets woke" or not, they still go broke...or at least make less money than if the only issue was the quality of the game.

2018-12-29 18:32:37 UTC  

Problem is: you have to reward players for good behaviour not punish them for bad.

2018-12-29 18:34:02 UTC  

Insightful post

2018-12-29 18:35:09 UTC  

next problem: You ain't dealin with Adults here, most of the time...

2018-12-29 18:35:22 UTC  

we're talking (more often than not) about 10-15 year old youngsters.

2018-12-29 18:36:29 UTC  

So if we're talking about for example Tom Clancy's The Division, you first have to deal with everyone that is underaged.

2018-12-29 18:36:54 UTC  

I disagree we see in adults too

2018-12-29 18:37:23 UTC  

Of course, like that asshole Twitch Streamer that Jeremy mentioned a couple of days ago that got killed by someone.

2018-12-29 18:37:59 UTC  

toxic people like that should be banned from that game for life and other online games for 6 months

2018-12-29 18:39:45 UTC  

So you do believe in punishing people for bad behavior

2018-12-29 18:40:33 UTC  

if we are talking about hurting the other one in real life, yes.

2018-12-29 18:40:42 UTC  

in this case we're talking about false DMCA Claims

2018-12-29 21:23:15 UTC  

Isnt the average gaming age like 35?

2018-12-29 21:52:24 UTC  

@Timcast This "green new deal" stuff is idiotic. 1) The original New Deal was a major contributing factor to the Great Depression. Seems like a bad thing to make parallels to. 2) The claim that it will lead to an economic windfall is contradicted by the fact people are asking government to initiate and subsidize it. If it were profitable there would be no need to subsidize. Businesses make long term plans all the time. New companies come in and compete to put pressure on existing businesses.

2018-12-29 21:54:31 UTC  

all these things are true

2018-12-29 21:55:48 UTC  

I don't disagree that he Green New Deal is the wrong prescription for a real problem. That said, I think the New Deal was fantastic for the time it existed and there is plenty of evidence for that. Did it solve the Depression by itself. Of course not - the depression was too big to be solved by any one solution. But did it very possibly save the US from a revolution - arguably yes.

2018-12-29 21:56:08 UTC  

Good medicine, but wrong ailment for it in this case.

2018-12-29 21:56:16 UTC  

That's simply false.

2018-12-29 21:56:25 UTC  

Nothing about the new deal helped the depression

2018-12-29 21:56:25 UTC  

Not, it's not

2018-12-29 21:56:30 UTC  

Yes it did

2018-12-29 21:56:31 UTC  

It lead to a great part of it

2018-12-29 21:57:19 UTC  

The depression was *four years old* by the time even the intial New Deal policies were just beginning to start

2018-12-29 21:57:50 UTC  

Roosevelt didn't enter office until March of 1933.

2018-12-29 21:57:57 UTC  

What economic schools of thought seriously claim that burning fields and paying people to do unproductive work and keeping salaries artificially high helps clear mal investment?

2018-12-29 21:57:59 UTC  

The stock market plunge was in 1929.

2018-12-29 21:58:16 UTC  

Roosevelt didn't start the New Deal programs

2018-12-29 21:58:40 UTC  

He coined the name

2018-12-29 21:58:56 UTC  

Hoover initiated similar programs

2018-12-29 21:59:21 UTC  

Not nearly as effective. The New Deal created the TVA and the Grade Coulee Dam.

2018-12-29 21:59:32 UTC  

Yes... and after all that things got worse.

2018-12-29 21:59:34 UTC  

The New Deal was not unproductive

2018-12-29 21:59:58 UTC  

Recovering from a Depression is not an easy task

2018-12-29 22:00:45 UTC  

Yes, it is. Let the malinvestments clear.

2018-12-29 22:01:13 UTC  

Coolidge did that in '20 / '21

2018-12-29 22:01:33 UTC  

Major crack boom... cut spending... over in less than 18 months

2018-12-29 22:01:53 UTC  

Not quite sure that it saved the US from revolution but it did help the average citizen a lot

2018-12-29 22:02:17 UTC  

Help them by keeping them in a depression for 10+ years?

2018-12-29 22:02:22 UTC  

World War two was what recovered the country