Message from @trapexit

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2018-12-29 22:04:12 UTC  

WW2 is what ultimately recovered everyone from the Depression, in large measure because of the US

2018-12-29 22:04:14 UTC  

This is basic economics

2018-12-29 22:04:36 UTC  

Government got money from where?

2018-12-29 22:04:46 UTC  

Government takes wealth, it does not create wealth.

2018-12-29 22:04:53 UTC  

Bonds as far as i understand it

2018-12-29 22:04:54 UTC  

Trapexis, the New Deal under Roosevelt was not "make work". Grand Coulee Dam. TVA. Bridges. Lots of infrastructure still in use today.

2018-12-29 22:05:27 UTC  

The New Deal did create wealth. Was it the most efficient method, that can be debated. But it DID create wealth.

2018-12-29 22:05:35 UTC  

Making use of something doesn't mean it wasn't mal investment

2018-12-29 22:05:50 UTC  

It also helped that the US had basically been acting as an arms supplier for the allies and been getting cash in exchange

2018-12-29 22:06:03 UTC  

Unless you're a salmon, the Grand Coulee dam was damn fine investment.

2018-12-29 22:06:07 UTC  

This is econ 101. If the market isn't investing in it it's a mal investment.

2018-12-29 22:06:25 UTC  

TVA - fine investment.

2018-12-29 22:06:27 UTC  

And if the market is investing?

2018-12-29 22:06:27 UTC  

People would have otherwise spent their money in other ways.

2018-12-29 22:06:32 UTC  

Bridges - fine investment

2018-12-29 22:06:39 UTC  

There was no money to spend

2018-12-29 22:06:42 UTC  

Not if people would have wanted other things

2018-12-29 22:06:50 UTC  

The banks were in shambles

2018-12-29 22:06:53 UTC  

Of course there was.

2018-12-29 22:07:05 UTC  

The economy was frozen for lack of money

2018-12-29 22:07:08 UTC  

Banks in shambles was in large part due to government.

2018-12-29 22:07:14 UTC  

They weren't in shambles in Canada

2018-12-29 22:07:22 UTC  

There is no such thing as lack of money

2018-12-29 22:07:28 UTC  

Indirectly, because the gov't didn't regulate banks effectively

2018-12-29 22:07:41 UTC  

That shows a complete misunderstanding of what money is.

2018-12-29 22:08:02 UTC  

Specifically the crash forced people into a saving mentality

2018-12-29 22:08:09 UTC  

The regulation is what lead to the problem. The Fed.

2018-12-29 22:08:17 UTC  

People were trying to get their money from banks that had no money to return to their depositors.

2018-12-29 22:08:28 UTC  

The banks had invested in things that evaporated.

2018-12-29 22:08:36 UTC  

Poof, no money.

2018-12-29 22:08:59 UTC  

where they didnt want to spend because they were unsure about their situation as a whole

2018-12-29 22:09:02 UTC  

People didn't save because they didn;t trust banks

2018-12-29 22:09:05 UTC  

Money only "disappears" due to fractional reserve banking

2018-12-29 22:10:00 UTC  

The FDIC exists today, and has saved us from similar issue since, because of Roosevelt response to the Depression.

2018-12-29 22:10:09 UTC  
2018-12-29 22:10:18 UTC  

FDIC is a bad policy

2018-12-29 22:10:23 UTC  

Didnt really save us from the housing crash

2018-12-29 22:10:26 UTC  

It subsidizes bad bank behavior

2018-12-29 22:10:36 UTC  

It monopolizes risk

2018-12-29 22:10:41 UTC  

It prevents regular citizens from losing everything

2018-12-29 22:10:49 UTC  

Instead of individuals taking bank behavior into account like they did prior.