Message from @pratel
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Honestly, I don't see where "build the wall" really says much of anything at all. There's alot of people there, it wouldn't even be necessarily clear who "build the wall" would be said by or who it is directed to.
No no. I'm going point by point, Klaf stated earlier in his point 3
Though I haven't heard "build the wall" myself.
an interesting thing about it is that, of that entire group of 50-70 highschoolers, only 10 or 12 actually had a lot of MAGA merchindice on them, yet the guy claiming to be afraid of the MAGApedies not only directs his attention to that one in particuler but chooses to move into him so much that it slowly displaces the crowd making it form around them when origenally that kid was on the outside of a bubble of people.
Theres no presence of build a wall or anything elseb
Was his point number 3
i also kinda see what khan is talking about with camera angles consitering the holder of that camera was not conserned about standing back and showing a large group of people until nathan begins chanting and pushing his way into the group in which case the camera zooms in to the point you get frames like those where basicly you only see the one kid and nathan
I think it's probably more a feature of pushing towards a particular person
Which in n the black dudes video, theres audible token trump lines and general championing, which Ithink is fine, but Kim seeing points being made frequently asserting that it's not in the video. It ja
i think the idea was to actually try and provoke even more from those highschoolers, but it ended up only getting as much as it did, which is really all they needed to spin a story in this yellow journalistic modern world
i actually think those highschoolers reacted as well as they posibly could have
So wait, journalists along with event attendees have anticipated or engineered a conflict to .manufacture controverys?
with a camera on them like that any agressive (probably defensive) body language or expressions would have made the media coverage worse
i dont know about journalists but activists sure do
I can say I have had Native Hawaiians try to provoke an fight with me using the "Breath greeting" and then got pissed off when I knew what they were doing
personally i thought the kid they singled out looked dopey, but they turned that into smug, if he looked defensive, theyd turn that into agressive
So maybe I can summarize all this in a better way...I'm 32 and back in high school my friends and I made everything a shit show. We had a section in the stands Section R for us to be rowdy kn at our games , but wed get wild in unison while kn the gold course , and we had a ball, it was awesome
i think journalists at the top of the pyramid rarely ever go about manufacturing drama, because they have people lower on the steps like this who will do it for them without any direct line of collusion. this kind of thing happens all the time, the big journalists simply troll through all the examples every day and pick the best ones to whatever end they want
We were just like these dudes with energized poisitin in ng, and had we encountered those black dudes, it would have been game on j the same manner
@caykoh yes, but it's not quite as sinister as you make it sound.
1) Nathan Phillips is a seasoned activist. He's got sympathetic contacts in the media.
2) following these kinds of events, he plants his story in some small places in the sympathetic press
3) turns out it *really* feeds the anti-Trump narrative.
4) things go viral, fast. The media is *extremely* good at locking into narratives. Anyone who analyzes media, left, right or center will tell you that.
5) Twitter goes ballistic.
Everything up to step 2 is *extremely* common. Union activists regularly alert local media to strikes to get sympathetic attention. As do protest marchers (think the Women's march). Depending on how it feeds the narrative, things usually stay local or make small national news. This time it exploded. In part because it feeds the narrative so well.
And the CTRL-Left storm trooper on Twitter formed a lynch mob
This was a bit of a perfect storm, IMO. It also was a very good distraction from Muller calling out the national press corps for running with that really bad story about Cohen.
The media was all too happy to get the heat off of themselves.
But guys, guys, the energy charge in the dynamic promotes defensive aggression to atleast skmedegree. And those fuckin Israel assholes were baiting the sbit out of the crowd .
Which has, of course, backfired.
And they the kids were hilariously competing
Eh, the kids were rallying themselves. People do that. It was a way for key elements of the students to get the attention of the *other* students off the Black Israelites.
Instead of them yelling "HATE" they called back with "Homosexuals are people too" and started singing hyms
But the Indian guy getting his drum sing over there steps right into the static field
From the standpoint of crowd and narrative control among the students makes a lot of sense.
Honestly, singing hymns and things is a very good response to that kind of thing.
Bro I'm conceding that pratel, they have every entitelyment to rally
admitedly the native american man did a bit to defuse the situation with the black israelies but shame it wasent with good intentions
It's like when people stand outside Neo-Nazi marchers with signs declaring they don't like the Neo-Nazis and singing the national anthem or something to deny the Neo-Nazis space.
Especially with these ducks baiting them
Fucks*
You have every right to peaceble assembly, and no one did anything violent
No one one claimed violence oxxured!
Nor that they cant assemble
I was honestly very impressed with the kids during the whole incident.