Message from @Blackhawk342

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2019-02-03 19:54:07 UTC  

the corporation could leevy that the state is supressing their freedom of expression in order for the state to get away with using the liberty of privacy to hide what the government is doing to the nations citizines in the war. also is the company slandering the nation by saying they believe the state is abusing its power and their freedom of speech? as already expressed the point at which the 2 rights meet is subjective even if the court has argued where it should be, that can change and the corporation is within its right to try and change that while arguing what it thinks the state is doing in its attempt to stop them.

2019-02-03 19:54:30 UTC  

theres a fine line between slander, libal, and accusation of intent

2019-02-03 19:54:38 UTC  

This all assumes that they have the right to freedom of the press

2019-02-03 19:55:32 UTC  

Because it would be very strange for a police state like nation to allow freedom of the press

2019-02-03 19:55:46 UTC  

The company's slander came from a place of them accusing the government of suppressing the media needlessly, for requesting a cease-and-desist

2019-02-03 19:56:45 UTC  

The press are a corporation at the end of the day and so are subject to the same laws as any other business with a public broadcast

2019-02-03 19:57:15 UTC  

Does freedom of the press exist in your definitely not orwellian nation ?

2019-02-03 19:57:35 UTC  

personally its my opinion that its subjective where the line between privacy and expression is made in the case of military opperations because i dont actually trust militarys to be within the best interest of their soldiers but at the same time i dont want to give the media the right to claim anything they want to claim and have complete control over the narritive of what the military does nor the ability to be absolved of all laws while doing it

2019-02-03 19:58:16 UTC  

If this helps understand the dispute, the combat was between space soldiers and a hiveminded suicide-bombing race of aliens

2019-02-03 19:58:44 UTC  

"the government supressing the media needlessly" is an opinion, it cant be slander even if you think its objectively true

2019-02-03 19:58:46 UTC  

How would that help?

2019-02-03 19:58:49 UTC  

They could have asked for consent and the government would have given it, as long as there was a shock warning

2019-02-03 19:59:22 UTC  

It was mainly a reference to the earlier point of the citizenry needing to know what the government had done in battle

2019-02-03 19:59:41 UTC  

Accountability is welcome but there are correct channels to go through for thatr

2019-02-03 20:00:07 UTC  

slander would be saying the government actually did something it didint do and the government having evidence to the contrary

2019-02-03 20:00:35 UTC  

the media didint do that, all they did was say in their opinion what the government was doing violated what the government should do

2019-02-03 20:00:44 UTC  

An intergalactic mega corp is basically a nation unto themselves

2019-02-03 20:01:01 UTC  

Treat them as a foreign nation, not as a business

2019-02-03 20:01:12 UTC  

i think they are entitled but they arnt slanderous

2019-02-03 20:01:44 UTC  

if they said the govenrment threatened them with more than a cease and dissist and it wasent true then that would count

2019-02-03 20:01:47 UTC  

Just level a massive fine against them with the stated intent to distribute it to the families of the soldiers

2019-02-03 20:02:19 UTC  

Point to the laws they broke and say that if they cannot abide by the rules their operating permits will be revoked

2019-02-03 20:03:59 UTC  

That's the general process, Blackhawk- if they refuse to pay the fine we're shutting them down

2019-02-03 20:04:38 UTC  

yeah its more useful to be a hardass than play their game, if you come at them with the "you told teacher on me" arguement its not going to work out well for you, and if the dm simply thinks your wrong and has control over the entire universe and will punish you nomatter what you do so coming down on them fairly leads them turning the universe against you even though that should be a stupid event for anyone in the universe to do that for then your dm is a dick or ignorent or both

2019-02-03 20:06:10 UTC  

Speaking as a DM theres nothing worse than being questioned and I have no idea how mature whoever is running this game

2019-02-03 20:06:19 UTC  

Id guess they're in highschool

2019-02-03 20:06:58 UTC  

its john cena

2019-02-03 20:07:42 UTC  

Its not a dick move so much as it is a punishment tactic

2019-02-03 20:07:56 UTC  

Nothing pisses people off more than one player wasting time by arguing with the DM

2019-02-03 20:08:06 UTC  

it can be a dick move

2019-02-03 20:08:19 UTC  

agreed

2019-02-03 20:08:37 UTC  

Im also guessing that this hypothetical mega corp has a very large security force

2019-02-03 20:08:48 UTC  

stupid and evil sit shoulder to shoulder on the bus

2019-02-03 20:08:57 UTC  

Be prepared for something dumb to happen as you shut them down

2019-02-03 20:36:36 UTC  

I think what's going to happen is the DM is gonna have their security kill a bunch of my men, then there'll be a slanderous news broadcast about me to other nations

2019-02-03 20:36:56 UTC  

So I'm just launching my own broadcast

2019-02-04 04:24:49 UTC  

@Paladin308 I know there is a republican movement in Australia to break away from the Crown is there anything like that in Canada?

2019-02-04 04:25:20 UTC  

Not as such, at least not to a significant degree

2019-02-04 04:26:34 UTC  

The Crown is largely seen as symbolic, with no real power

2019-02-04 04:27:04 UTC  

Governor General just acts a tourist atraction?