Message from @Wally

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2019-02-06 15:57:23 UTC  

Even without the federal reserve, debt would still be a thing

2019-02-06 15:57:47 UTC  

Hell, england is still paying off stuff from wars in the 1800s

2019-02-06 15:59:57 UTC  

And I'm also don't think that our society will be able to handle any sort of anarchy in it's current state...there needs to be a mass apifiny, or just....a lot of time to consider such an idea before putting any of these sorts of ideas into action. At this point, my whole purpose is to try to bring about new ideas that go along with less regulation.

And I completely concur with your idea on debt. But I'm sure that it would not be such an inflated debt that we see now. The world is in a financial bubble.

2019-02-06 16:01:38 UTC  

I agree that the world is a mess

2019-02-06 16:01:46 UTC  

The federal reserve is at fault

2019-02-06 16:02:23 UTC  

But the problem is that they got reckless with lending. So the answer is to remove regulations on lending so people can be reckless with lending?

2019-02-06 16:02:57 UTC  

China right now has a serious peer 2 peer lending problem. Making the federal reserve dissapear wont erase the ability to accumiliate debt

2019-02-06 16:03:03 UTC  

If people are reckless with lending, they won't get their money back and crash

2019-02-06 16:03:23 UTC  

But the currency won't be based on debt

2019-02-06 16:03:54 UTC  

Having a decentralized banking system with different mints and banks competing would yield better results

2019-02-06 16:04:21 UTC  

If central control is taken away, than central debt can no longer exist. And Pazuz actually beat me to the punch lol

2019-02-06 16:04:26 UTC  

Sound money is the way to go, either precious metal based or crypto based, or both

2019-02-06 16:05:12 UTC  

You take a fiat based money and you can take any sort of debt, and make it impossible to pay back any of that debt in any capacity.

2019-02-06 16:05:23 UTC  

Thats alot of regulation tho

2019-02-06 16:05:33 UTC  

To habdle many different currencies

2019-02-06 16:05:42 UTC  

I agree with what yall are saying

2019-02-06 16:05:52 UTC  

But its interfering with the free market regardless

2019-02-06 16:06:13 UTC  

Trump putting tariffs on china was regulation and overall good for the country

2019-02-06 16:06:19 UTC  

Thats goverment interference

2019-02-06 16:06:20 UTC  

If you don't have regulation you don't need to handle the different currencies

2019-02-06 16:06:26 UTC  

You said it yourself, we don't have a free market.

2019-02-06 16:06:46 UTC  

How is crypto doing?

2019-02-06 16:06:53 UTC  

So many different cryptos

2019-02-06 16:06:59 UTC  

returning to the mean

2019-02-06 16:07:08 UTC  

A true value

2019-02-06 16:07:18 UTC  

the competition between cryptos is a good thing

2019-02-06 16:07:26 UTC  

We need fake money like debt to keep going

2019-02-06 16:07:38 UTC  

t. John Maynard Keynes

2019-02-06 16:07:40 UTC  

To wage wars etc. Its been that way since before banking.

2019-02-06 16:07:56 UTC  

Because its part of the competition aspect

2019-02-06 16:07:56 UTC  

With a free market, lending will most definitely be allowed, with no regulation, and working with a system that has a solid value base will keep that lending from reaching a capacity that is immeasurable, unless you are completely reckless.

2019-02-06 16:08:19 UTC  

And if you're reckless in any way, you'll crash and burn

2019-02-06 16:08:48 UTC  

Isnt that your issue with whats going on now?

2019-02-06 16:09:03 UTC  

Bussinesses dont have to takr the loans that they did in the 2008 chrash

2019-02-06 16:09:18 UTC  

What you mean?

2019-02-06 16:09:26 UTC  

Yet to stay conpetitive they must

2019-02-06 16:09:47 UTC  

The financial bubble we are in now has been completly voluntary

2019-02-06 16:10:49 UTC  

With the fed distorting rates? It was only voluntary inasmuch it people were responding to incentives

2019-02-06 16:11:00 UTC  

^

2019-02-06 16:11:02 UTC  

You got me there

2019-02-06 16:12:03 UTC  

Well in any case im merely playing devils advocate. I believe there needs to be less regulations in some areas but more in others.